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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. basso

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    this should be required reading for everyone before the election.

    [rquoter] Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?
    By Orson Scott Card

    Editor's note: Orson Scott Card is a Democrat and a newspaper columnist, and in this opinion piece he takes on both while lamenting the current state of journalism.

    An open letter to the local daily paper — almost every local daily paper in America:

    I remember reading All the President's Men and thinking: That's journalism. You do what it takes to get the truth and you lay it before the public, because the public has a right to know.

    This housing crisis didn't come out of nowhere. It was not a vague emanation of the evil Bush administration.

    It was a direct result of the political decision, back in the late 1990s, to loosen the rules of lending so that home loans would be more accessible to poor people. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were authorized to approve risky loans.

    What is a risky loan? It's a loan that the recipient is likely not to be able to repay.

    The goal of this rule change was to help the poor — which especially would help members of minority groups. But how does it help these people to give them a loan that they can't repay? They get into a house, yes, but when they can't make the payments, they lose the house — along with their credit rating.

    They end up worse off than before.

    This was completely foreseeable and in fact many people did foresee it. One political party, in Congress and in the executive branch, tried repeatedly to tighten up the rules. The other party blocked every such attempt and tried to loosen them.

    Furthermore, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were making political contributions to the very members of Congress who were allowing them to make irresponsible loans. (Though why quasi-federal agencies were allowed to do so baffles me. It's as if the Pentagon were allowed to contribute to the political campaigns of Congressmen who support increasing their budget.)

    Isn't there a story here? Doesn't journalism require that you who produce our daily paper tell the truth about who brought us to a position where the only way to keep confidence in our economy was a $700 billion bailout? Aren't you supposed to follow the money and see which politicians were benefiting personally from the deregulation of mortgage lending?

    I have no doubt that if these facts had pointed to the Republican Party or to John McCain as the guilty parties, you would be treating it as a vast scandal. "Housing-gate," no doubt. Or "Fannie-gate."

    Instead, it was Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, both Democrats, who denied that there were any problems, who refused Bush administration requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and who were still pushing for these agencies to go even further in promoting sub-prime mortgage loans almost up to the minute they failed.

    As Thomas Sowell points out in a TownHall.com essay entitled "Do Facts Matter?" ( http://snipurl.com/457townhall_com] ): "Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago. So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush's Secretary of the Treasury."

    These are facts. This financial crisis was completely preventable. The party that blocked any attempt to prevent it was ... the Democratic Party. The party that tried to prevent it was ... the Republican Party.

    Yet when Nancy Pelosi accused the Bush administration and Republican deregulation of causing the crisis, you in the press did not hold her to account for her lie. Instead, you criticized Republicans who took offense at this lie and refused to vote for the bailout!

    What? It's not the liar, but the victims of the lie who are to blame?

    Now let's follow the money ... right to the presidential candidate who is the number-two recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.

    And after Freddie Raines, the CEO of Fannie Mae who made $90 million while running it into the ground, was fired for his incompetence, one presidential candidate's campaign actually consulted him for advice on housing.

    If that presidential candidate had been John McCain, you would have called it a major scandal and we would be getting stories in your paper every day about how incompetent and corrupt he was.

    But instead, that candidate was Barack Obama, and so you have buried this story, and when the McCain campaign dared to call Raines an "adviser" to the Obama campaign — because that campaign had sought his advice — you actually let Obama's people get away with accusing McCain of lying, merely because Raines wasn't listed as an official adviser to the Obama campaign.

    You would never tolerate such weasely nit-picking from a Republican.

    If you who produce our local daily paper actually had any principles, you would be pounding this story, because the prosperity of all Americans was put at risk by the foolish, short-sighted, politically selfish, and possibly corrupt actions of leading Democrats, including Obama.

    If you who produce our local daily paper had any personal honor, you would find it unbearable to let the American people believe that somehow Republicans were to blame for this crisis.

    There are precedents. Even though President Bush and his administration never said that Iraq sponsored or was linked to 9/11, you could not stand the fact that Americans had that misapprehension — so you pounded us with the fact that there was no such link. (Along the way, you created the false impression that Bush had lied to them and said that there was a connection.)

    If you had any principles, then surely right now, when the American people are set to blame President Bush and John McCain for a crisis they tried to prevent, and are actually shifting to approve of Barack Obama because of a crisis he helped cause, you would be laboring at least as hard to correct that false impression.

    Your job, as journalists, is to tell the truth. That's what you claim you do, when you accept people's money to buy or subscribe to your paper.

    But right now, you are consenting to or actively promoting a big fat lie — that the housing crisis should somehow be blamed on Bush, McCain, and the Republicans. You have trained the American people to blame everything bad — even bad weather — on Bush, and they are responding as you have taught them to.

    If you had any personal honor, each reporter and editor would be insisting on telling the truth — even if it hurts the election chances of your favorite candidate.

    Because that's what honorable people do. Honest people tell the truth even when they don't like the probable consequences. That's what honesty means . That's how trust is earned.

    Barack Obama is just another politician, and not a very wise one. He has revealed his ignorance and naivete time after time — and you have swept it under the rug, treated it as nothing.

    Meanwhile, you have participated in the borking of Sarah Palin, reporting savage attacks on her for the pregnancy of her unmarried daughter — while you ignored the story of John Edwards's own adultery for many months.

    So I ask you now: Do you have any standards at all? Do you even know what honesty means?

    Is getting people to vote for Barack Obama so important that you will throw away everything that journalism is supposed to stand for?

    You might want to remember the way the National Organization of Women threw away their integrity by supporting Bill Clinton despite his well-known pattern of sexual exploitation of powerless women. Who listens to NOW anymore? We know they stand for nothing; they have no principles.

    That's where you are right now.

    It's not too late. You know that if the situation were reversed, and the truth would damage McCain and help Obama, you would be moving heaven and earth to get the true story out there.

    If you want to redeem your honor, you will swallow hard and make a list of all the stories you would print if it were McCain who had been getting money from Fannie Mae, McCain whose campaign had consulted with its discredited former CEO, McCain who had voted against tightening its lending practices.

    Then you will print them, even though every one of those true stories will point the finger of blame at the reckless Democratic Party, which put our nation's prosperity at risk so they could feel good about helping the poor, and lay a fair share of the blame at Obama's door.

    You will also tell the truth about John McCain: that he tried, as a Senator, to do what it took to prevent this crisis. You will tell the truth about President Bush: that his administration tried more than once to get Congress to regulate lending in a responsible way.

    This was a Congress-caused crisis, beginning during the Clinton administration, with Democrats leading the way into the crisis and blocking every effort to get out of it in a timely fashion.

    If you at our local daily newspaper continue to let Americans believe — and vote as if — President Bush and the Republicans caused the crisis, then you are joining in that lie.

    If you do not tell the truth about the Democrats — including Barack Obama — and do so with the same energy you would use if the miscreants were Republicans — then you are not journalists by any standard.

    You're just the public relations machine of the Democratic Party, and it's time you were all fired and real journalists brought in, so that we can actually have a news paper in our city.

    This article first appeared in The Rhinoceros Times of Greensboro, North Carolina, and is used here by permission. [/rquoter]
     
  2. RocketRaccoon

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    Thanks basso...good read, and I agree, a must read.

    Mr. Card seems to be one democrat columnist I'll likely read again.

    Thanks god he can look out a window because most of them are only looking in mirrors.
     
  3. giddyup

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    What a fun game. Let's see... I am not philosophically opposed to the Death Penalty, therefore, I will call myself a Republican. As a Republican, my opinion that this science fiction writer knows nothing about the housing crisis and doesn't understand that the facts weigh heavily against his thesis must carry extra special weight.
     
  5. Amiga

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    Card identify himself as a Democrat but has been a strong supporter of Bush/Cheney and Right (the extreme right for that matter). I think the only positions he doesn't agree with the Republican on is gun control and free market w/o any government oversight.
     
  6. Ottomaton

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    Orson Scott Card is a science fiction author. He is also a kooky right wing Mormon. He may describe himself as a Democrat, but doesn't really believe any "Democrat Party" ideas beyond gun control. I half believe he describes himself thusly so he can write articles like this and say they were written by a Democrat.
     
  7. Faos

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    Good stuff. Thanks for the link.
     
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    THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS FOR JOHN MCCAIN!
     
  9. baller4life315

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    Time to play the Mitt Romney "Dismiss whatever he says because he's Morman" card.
     
  10. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    I would be similarly impressed if I had, for instance, a view that predisposed me to defending Bush and blaming Clinton in absentia for everything I possibly could.

    edit: (thanks, basso, poor scanning comprehension skills by B-Bob)
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    Anyway, ... the most compelling analyses, to me, highlight that changing administrations sometimes unintentionally bring together policies that shouldn't go together: in this case, aggressive home-ownership for people with crappy credit married to deregulated and "creative" financial markets working with this massive, suspect debt.

    But I do like that the author doesn't call anyone a terrorist or un-American for not sharing his views. That is admirable and commendable.

    Any and all opinion pieces should be viewed by all of us. Not just one that one person happens to agree with. Do your own analysis.
     
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  11. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Maybe some people. Not me. I've known too many Mormons, and have been blown away by their respectfulness and thoughtfulness, more often than not. That said, I can't say I've met a liberal practicing Mormon yet. Some jack Mormons, yes definitely.
     
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    hmmm, sounds kinda like Colin Powell.
     
  13. basso

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    "What? It's not the liar, but the victims of the lie who are to blame?"

    i think you may have missed this part. he's blaming congressional democrats, and a few specific ones, not the poor recipients of the lousy loans.
     
  14. basso

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    more here, from another racist republican.

    [rquoter]Do Facts Matter?

    Abraham Lincoln said, "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time."

    Unfortunately, the future of this country, as well as the fate of the Western world, depends on how many people can be fooled on election day, just a few weeks from now.

    Right now, the polls indicate that a whole lot of the people are being fooled a whole lot of the time.

    The current financial bailout crisis has propelled Barack Obama back into a substantial lead over John McCain-- which is astonishing in view of which man and which party has had the most to do with bringing on this crisis.

    It raises the question: Do facts matter? Or is Obama's rhetoric and the media's spin enough to make facts irrelevant?

    Fact Number One: It was liberal Democrats, led by Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, who for years-- including the present year-- denied that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were taking big risks that could lead to a financial crisis.

    It was Senator Dodd, Congressman Frank and other liberal Democrats who for years refused requests from the Bush administration to set up an agency to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    It was liberal Democrats, again led by Dodd and Frank, who for years pushed for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to go even further in promoting subprime mortgage loans, which are at the heart of today's financial crisis.

    Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago. So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush's Secretary of the Treasury, five years ago.

    Yet, today, what are we hearing? That it was the Bush administration "right-wing ideology" of "de-regulation" that set the stage for the financial crisis. Do facts matter?

    We also hear that it is the free market that is to blame. But the facts show that it was the government that pressured financial institutions in general to lend to subprime borrowers, with such things as the Community Reinvestment Act and, later, threats of legal action by then Attorney General Janet Reno if the feds did not like the statistics on who was getting loans and who wasn't.

    Is that the free market? Or do facts not matter?

    Then there is the question of being against the "greed" of CEOs and for "the people." Franklin Raines made $90 million while he was head of Fannie Mae and mismanaging that institution into crisis.

    Who in Congress defended Franklin Raines? Liberal Democrats, including Maxine Waters and the Congressional Black Caucus, at least one of whom referred to the "lynching" of Raines, as if it was racist to hold him to the same standard as white CEOs.

    Even after he was deposed as head of Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines was consulted this year by the Obama campaign for his advice on housing!

    The Washington Post criticized the McCain campaign for calling Raines an adviser to Obama, even though that fact was reported in the Washington Post itself on July 16th. The technicality and the spin here is that Raines is not officially listed as an adviser. But someone who advises is an adviser, whether or not his name appears on a letterhead.

    The tie between Barack Obama and Franklin Raines is not all one-way. Obama has been the second-largest recipient of Fannie Mae's financial contributions, right after Senator Christopher Dodd.

    But ties between Obama and Raines? Not if you read the mainstream media.

    Facts don't matter much politically if they are not reported.

    The media alone are not alone in keeping the facts from the public. Republicans, for reasons unknown, don't seem to know what it is to counter-attack. They deserve to lose.

    But the country does not deserve to be put in the hands of a glib and cocky know-it-all, who has accomplished absolutely nothing beyond the advancement of his own career with rhetoric, and who has for years allied himself with a succession of people who have openly expressed their hatred of America. [/rquoter]
     
  15. SamCassell

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    I loved Enders Game and that whole series.

    As others have said, Mr. Card is a Democrat in name only. He was a staunch advocate of Bush / Cheney in 04 and Republicans in general in 06. He holds a unique set of political views.

    txtony is wrong about Card's views on capitalism. Card has called free market capitalism "rapacious".
     
  16. SamFisher

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    LMFAO at ORson Scott Card resurfacing on the BBS. Perhaps he can spin a tale of a sci fi univese in which McCain wins.

    Here is where we last saw him in November 2006. One of his editorials was posted by one of our most awesomest posters, who took the time to preface his comments by saying:

    A great big "OWNED" pic should be inserted here.

    And as far as required reading goes, this thread should be it for anybody who subscribes to the "it was the negros and fannie and freddie!" hypothesis. Card repeats the same lazy lie that the CRA was responsible for subprime loans, when something like 86% of all subprime loans were issued by private orignators not subject to the CRA.

    Either he's lazy or he's being disingenuos in order to push the "negros fannie and freddie" theory - the way basso is.

    Need another "OWNED" pic.
     
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    Card's political views are more in line with Republicans and Democrats, so I'm surprised he calls himself a Democrat. Anyways, that's not the important issue here so I don't want to get distracted.

    He raised the following points:

    1. Democrats are primarily to blame for the housing crisis, because they repeatedly blocked attempts to "tighten up" the lending rules by Republicans. This is effectively the root cause of the financial crisis.
    2. Freddie Mac and Fannie May were politically contributing to the (Democratic) politicians allowing them to give out risky loans to poor people; furthermore the Obama campaign actually consulted the Fannie May CEO.
    3. The media gave people the false impression that Bush lied to the American people by trying to connect Iraq to 9/11
    4. The media had a double standard with Sarah Palin, blasting her for her child's pregnancy while under-reporting Edward's adultery

    The first two are his primary reasons for claiming that Democrats are more to blame for the crisis than Republicans. The last two are further examples of how reporters (who apparently all belong to a single group under the same agenda, as he compared them to N.O.W.) have been biased against Republicans in their reporting.

    I'd appreciate it if someone could give their counter-argument to these points, in particular the first two.

    edit: Just noticed the link SamFisher posted. Will read.
     
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    Sorry while I derail this a moment... I thought of this...

    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2EHWujXubNM&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2EHWujXubNM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

    Perhaps RMTex and I think similarly at times? :cool:
     
  20. Deckard

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    I stopped reading when it said Card was a Democrat. Since when? He's a terrific writer, but he is also a conservative Republican, or does a damn good job pretending to be one, and has for many years.
     

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