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Boki to the point

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dconover, Mar 23, 2004.

  1. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    Dear Boki,

    We are sure you're a very nice person, but give us some credit.
    Do you really think a random moniker like "dconover" will be
    enough to fool us? To quote senior member GrEgOnOmIcS,
    "stop posting immediately," and get back to the gym.

    Thanks.
     
  2. dconover

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    Interesting article on ESPN regarding the Griz and how they play everyone:

    The Memphis Grizzlies were playing a game recently, and they won the close game at the very end.


    Afterward, grizzled Grizzlies coach Hubie Brown was sitting in his office when a "very knowledgeable NBA guy," as Brown described him, came in and told Brown, "Man, you guys have a deep team."


    "Yeah," Brown retorted, "we have a deep team because we play our guys. Now let's talk about who didn't play on that (other) team tonight. They are better than our guys who are playing. If they were on our team, they would be playing."


    Brown wasn't specific about who the other team was, but only because he was referring to his own team's philosophy, one that has made the Grizzlies one of the success stories of the NBA this season after so many years of moribund mediocrity (which is being kind).

    Could he be talking about the ROX. Let BOKI play.
     
  3. rocksolid

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    might have some trouble???? the rockets would set an nba record for most TO's in a season.

    and no, we WANT more than "someone who can run the break, pass to Yao, and hit the open J."

    While those things are important, we want a team leader who runs the offense, finds the open man, and can also play defense on Marbury, Kidd, Baron Davis et al...while cat 'MIGHT' be able to guard SOME of the PGs in the league...expecting Boki to guard other SGs would be a mistake. He has a hard enough time keeping up with other NBA players at ther SF.
     
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    hahahahahhaha...probably not...the Grizz are deeper at the SF than any body in the NBA.
     
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    Hubie Brown is known to like to have a 10-man rotation. He substitute each position straight up (almost) rather than having some players play two positions, like most NBA coaches do. I kinda like his philosophy. Keeping your guys fresh gives you advantage down the stretch, especially during the regular season.

    "We have a deep team because we play our guys." Nice quote.
     
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    dconover...have you even watched boki play? and i second what macbeth said....the quotes you posted didn't back you up at all. they didn't mention amazing passer or handles.
     
  7. Stack24

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    How about we sign Jay Williams for the minimum for a couple years let him rehab and come back and prove everyone wrong in a rockets uniform since he is a true point guard.

    If he can't return then oh well, we just let it go like we have so many other things. But hey it could be a long shot that turns out in our favor...

    Just a thought....go ahead and bash me later.
     
  8. munco

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    I think Boki has game but...
    he hasn't played particularly well at the small forward position. So moving him to the most difficult position doesn't seem to be a wise move. If he plays the point expect the opposing team to press full-court and I think that will be tough.
     
  9. dconover

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    We don't need someone who is an amazing passer or with amazing handles. Stevie has that and that is our problem. We need steady, in control and team oriented. Someone who can make the simple inlet pass to the post. Someone who can hit the open J.
     
  10. Life2Def

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    Boki can never play the point. His handle is not very good to bring the ball up while being pressured, that'll just lead to him getting his pocket picked and a easy lay up for the other team.
     
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    I just had a quick question not about Boki but about the full court traps/presses. In a recent college game in the March Madness NCAA Tournament (forgot what game), the team broke the press very easliy by keeping their big men near the halfcourt line and just having an assembly line of sorts. The in-bounds pass would go to a close man who was open, who would dribble twice then pass it upcourt to an open man, who would dribble twice then pass to a man further upcourt, etc. They crossed the line in about 5 seconds using this technique. Why don't we employ this to break the press, quite possibly even just toss it to Yao at the half court line and have him dump it off to a streaking JJ/SF/Cat etc?
     
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    That would work in a sense but the problem being that Yao would have to run back to the post over and over after that pass that would tire him out since the offense is based on the post play of Yao.

    In most college teams they don't have a big inside threat unless your someone like UCOnn with Okafor. So there centers to have to go and get position as fast as Yao would have to.
     
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    Then you could have Cato at the halfcourt line with Yao parked closer to the lane. The point is, to break the press, all they had to do was pass it upcourt. Their spacing was good, they ran to the ball and helped the ballhandler, etc. I just think that'd be a good way to help Stevie break the press.
     
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    Good Point as long as Cato doesn't break down with all that pressure that is on him lol.
     
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    have you heard of jim jackson?
     
  16. MONON

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    That's not a bad idea!
     
  17. robbarnett

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    its time to move on man, he's not starter material. I could average over 40 ppg against my cousins under 12 team, that doesnt transalte to NBA.
     
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    dconover,

    I've pondered Boki at the point. If anything, he's a good post-entry-passer (to Yao).
    The few times that I've seen him enter the ball, he's been *spot on!*

    He's a good passer for the limited minutes that he's played. But what seems to be his problem is confidence. No one is calling on him to step it up. He's just laying low. He's also kind of slow on bringing the ball up. He needs to develop more quickness. If he did that he's be a lot more effective at ball handling.

    He's not a "Dan Langhi." So, if we were to trade him to say, the Kings, he'd flourish. That seems to be his game. Running and fast-breaking. And we don't do enough of that on the Rox for him to be a factor. All we really use him for is 3 pointers. He's underused on the Rox.


    P.S. If anything, I've pictured Nachbar as a "Brent Barry shooter/setup man" not a "Marbury passer/ball-handler."
     
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    Nachbar's abilities do not match those needed by a PG. Jim Jackson, on the other hand, could make the transition. Next to Yao, he is arguably the most intelligent player we have.
     
  20. robbie380

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    that could be said about a lot of guys
     

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