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Bogut and claiming him off waivers

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jayfree, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. heypartner

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    He's definitely right about how exception money is prorated downward after Jan 10th -- basically, players get paychecks per game played.

    I'm assuming signing a contract this late using capspace also makes Boguts checks equal to $3.5m / games played. Maybe Bogut gets the full $3.5m
     
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  2. DonKnock

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    Thought this might drag on but realized March 1st is only 3 days away:eek:

    We should know by next Wednesday
     
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  3. ElPigto

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    29. When a player signs mid-year for the rest of the season, is his salary pro-rated? What is a "Rest-of-Season" contract?
    A "Rest-of-Season" contract is exactly what its name implies -- it is a contract signed after the start of a season, which is in effect for the remainder of that season.

    With the exception of minimum-salary contracts, salaries do not pro-rate during the season. However, the exceptions that enable players to be signed are subject to pro-ration (see question number 26). For example, a team that has not used its Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception could use its full amount to sign a player on the last day of the regular season. By that day this exception will have pro-rated down to less than half its original value. However a player could sign a rest-of-season contract on that day for the entire pro-rated amount, earning it all for just one game.

    The minimum salary begins to pro-rate on the first day of the regular season. The minimum salary on a Rest-of-Season contract is based on the fraction of the season remaining when the contract is signed. For example, if there are 170 days in the season, then a minimum salary contract signed on the 60th day of the season is worth 110/170 of the full minimum salary amount.1 If a player signs a multi-year minimum salary contract partway through the first season, then the first season is pro-rated and the salary in subsequent seasons is the full minimum salary


    Sounds like signing players midseason using exceptions or minimums are subject to proration while being under the cap allows you to give them the full amount.
     
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    All Cleveland has left is a little over 400 thousand from their mid-level exception to give. So the contract, if they give him the whole thing would be the 400k prorated over the rest of the season as opposed to our 3.5 mil that would be prorated. So 400k x 9 would be around 3.6 million, so he's not exact, but close enough.
     
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  5. txn

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    Who cares about Bogut, when we got Chinanu Onuaku who just finished a 27/20 game. He will be our 2015 Clint, provide the spark in the playoff :D
     
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  6. DonKnock

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    Bogut is near 2015-2016 Dwight levels of refusal to operate in the pick and roll.

    He may set good screens for small window shooters, but the threat of a roller is one of the main elements of why we get so many wide open shots.

    Without that threat we have Harden coming off the screen to a man who will stay on his body instead of having to chose
     
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  7. killakim

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    From above: "With the exception of minimum-salary contracts, salaries do not pro-rate during the season."

    So, from that take it that their 400k exception would be prorated (at like 1/4 the price, so about 100k for 25 games) whereas our cap room would allow us to sign Bogut and give him the full 3.5 million for those same 25 games. I think that is way more than 9x.
     
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    @Vivi BimaThug confirmed Albert "as per usual" is correct.
     
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  9. Dream lover

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    He's not ready yet. He's at that first year Clint Capella stage, he's not fast enough yet. We need a veteran for the playoff push. If he works his tail off this summer, then we'll see him next season.
     
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    If that's the case, then he missed it, but I can see how he would think that if you just assume as I did that both are prorated..
     
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    Only 10 of those 20 guys ever even became rotation players and only 4 of those guys and if you want to include sander it's 5 we're good rim protectors so I don't really know what that list proves, other than longer reach appearntly doesn't equate to being a good rim protector.
     
  12. DonKnock

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    Way to conveniently ignore the video and fact that Sanders already proved he is an elite rim protector:rolleyes:


    Btw Bogut gives you 2015-2016 levels of Dwight production as a PnR threat.

    I'm sure you'll stick your head in the sand at the importance of a roller in our offensive system too tho:)
     
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  13. icecreamman

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    Is Bogut even gonna get waived?
     
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    I don't think Cleveland's 400k would be prorated either since it's not a vet minimum contract.

    A prorated vet minimum contract is actually higher than 400k. Vet minimum for 10+ year experience is $1.55 mil, prorated over 25/81 games gives $478k.
     
  15. killakim

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    Actually, the very next line from my quote is this: "With the exception of minimum-salary contracts, salaries do not pro-rate during the season. However, the exceptions that enable players to be signed are subject to pro-ration (see question number 26). " Cavs only have MLE left, so it would be prorated
     
  16. DonKnock

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    Bought out, should happen before Wednesday
     
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  17. jogo

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    I haven't read this post, but...
    The league office confirmed this week that the Warriors are free under NBA rules to re-sign Bogut if they wish -- despite trading the veteran center to Dallas in July -- but ESPN reported Thursday that Golden State has been targeting guard help in its search for roster upgrades heading into the regular-season stretch run.

    This is shtty BSPN. Has anyone heard about this? I would hate for them to get him back.
     
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    Warriors beat writers on Twitter said Bogut feuded with team members and management on his way out and correspondingly won't be brought back.
     
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    Oh, that's good. Thanks.
     
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