Bob McNair: We’re working on getting a quarterback

I wouldn't. If there was some kind of top tier QB prospect in this class then that's one thing, but there isn't. It would be a LOT cheaper to trade up into the low teens to get a QB then without much of a drop in quality.

 

That's true. Considering that the only playmaker on offense is DeAndre Hopkins, this may be a pretty bad situation going forward.

 

Nah, all it would take is a slightly competent QB to come in and the Texans are pretty well set. The QB doesn't have to be good, or even above average, just an average level QB would be the improvement they need going forward.

I don't think anyone really expected the Texans to do anything with one of the worst QB's to be on an NFL roster starting for them.

 

Is it wise to just wait for the later rounds for a "value pick" at the qb spot?

Football Outsiders crunched the numbers a few years back. Spoiler alert: not a good idea.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2014/nfl-draft-round-round-quarterback-data

 

Well they cut Mallet pretty quickly, so that problem was solved and the team immediately went on a winning streak and got into the playoffs.

But Hoyer and Weeden should be backups if they want to take the next step

 

Well I'm not exactly talking about the "later rounds", just that there's no point in trading up to #1 when there isn't a QB that is worth it. In fact, 2 years ago, the best QB was taken in the 2nd round, if you traded all the way up to the #1 pick for Bortles, you are probably feeling pretty stupid right now. This year it doesn't seem like there is top tier QB talent to be had in the draft at all so the idea of trading that far up for one of the QB's that isn't remarkably better than some of the other QB's in the class is pretty crazy.

 

We draft kind of late in the first though

Also reaching for a guy in the first round doesn't really mean he'll perform like a first rounder. Only take one if he's worth it

 

Prime Schaub!!!

 

I know; just wanted to put the link here. Thought it was interesting

 

Hell if the Texans had prime Schaub they likely have a bye in the playoffs and might be still playing. Unfortunately most of Schaub's prime was wasted due to injury.

 

It'd be idiotic to trade Clowney and especially Hopkins with our number one to move up for a quarterback. No one has, or will, distance themselves from the pack at that position. Why give up potentially your top few best players to get someone that may not pan out. Just dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

 

Yeah, but it's great for local sports radio talk and message board speculation. Like the JJ Watt for Cam Newton trade. I don't think anyone actually believes it is going to happen. The Texans will be fine with whatever 1st or 2nd round QB as long as they keep their defense together and get a solid running game. The QB would have to be a total bust to not be able to make it work here.

 

Agreed. That's too much to pay when there's no slam dunk QB prospect. Any of the top handful of QBs in the draft, regardless of what order they go, could end up being the best. So while we might have our QB of preference, it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend a lot to move up. Cleveland might reach a little to draft someone at #2, but none of these QBs are really worthy of going that high and I certainly wouldn't trade all the way up to #1 just to take one.

 

2016 22nd pick
2016 3rd Round
2017 1st round
2017 3rd round

OR
2016 22nd pick
2016 3rd Round
2017 1st round
Clowney

 

^^^PS...this is only if the McNair believes that Goff/Lynch/Wentz is good enough for #1 overall.

And this would most likely be unlikely as a top 1 pick would NOT move down all the way to 22...Unless its on the level of the RG3 pick trade the Redskins made....

My belief is that the Texans actively pursue RG3, and hope that Goff/Lynch/Wentz/or Cook (very likely one will be)...And then let Tom Savage, Weeden and RG3 compete for the spot the #1 spot...

Release Hoyer btw...

 

Maybe, but there's always the "primetime" factor with Matt.

Big games, he was mostly garbage - pre-injury and after.

Schaub is not talent level a franchise should strive for.

 

It will take one of those 2 and the 22 pick to trade up.

 

I still see no reason for the Texans to even want to trade up for the overall #1 in this draft. There are cheaper draft picks that could be bought in order to get a QB.

 

For who?
Someone who may not pan out?
Why not just wait for R2?
They could try a small move up for whoever falls to around #15. Next year's #2?

 

I don't understand the "maybe one of x QBs will fall to 22 (or whatever spot" logic.

I get it as a fan - it's a crapshoot a bit and you'll root for whichever the Texans end up with, hope that's the QB of the draft, and the Texans get to maximize their picks.

But as an organization, scouting group, GM, coach, owner, etc you have to have strong opinions about specific QBs. These are the 1/2 guys we want and we are/aren't willing to move up to get them, and we're not just going to take whomever is left.

Especially for the Texans, who seem to (rightfully) be really focused on the QB for once and may have decided (right, wrong... Who knows) this is the draft to make a move.

Personally I would absolutely do something like Clowney, this years first and second and next years second to move up to #1 and pick Goff. And hats recognizing there is just potential that you typically wouldn't do such a move for.

Clowney has been basically useless. This years first doesn't matter because you'd be moving way up. This years second and next are tough losses but the Texans track record isn't exactly stellar there anyway. Guaranteed one of those isn't an NFL caliber player in 3 years.

Maybe it takes more than that... I don't know. There's obviously a point where it's too much to give up.

But if it wasn't clear before (and somehow to some it wasn't and they thought the Hoyer signing was good risk protection who might turn into something on a better team... Lol) is got to be clear now that that Bob has to either find his QB of the future this offseason or go down as just another mediocre NFL head coach.