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Big Bob currently under fire: "Cant let the inmates run the prison"

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by donkeypunch, Oct 27, 2017.

  1. geeimsobored

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    Exactly and the NFL actually got paid by the DoD for a lot of that stuff. Pretty ridiculous to hear owners talk about the need for players to avoid politics when the NFL not only participates in it but was actively profiting off of it.

    If you want to get politics out of the NFL then get rid of the anthem, military events, etc.. Just make it about sports. But once you introduce patriotism into it, don't whine when players use those moments to make statements.
     
  2. ballgame

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    I'm still amazed at how McNair got this far but God protects babies and fools and since McNair is not a baby. But McNair has been known for having FOOTINMOUTH DESEASE for years now. Remember when he contemplating firing Kubiac and he said, he asked the other owners their thoughts. It goes on and on with him.

    But everybody has their moments but with McNair it's constant and it's evident he's from the south, republican, conservative and has racialist views. I think the sad part is, Houston is such a diverse city and with McNair being a large public figure in the city, it puts a cloud over what Houston stands for.

    In addition, I find it strange that NOBODY HAS CALLED HIM OUT......NOT THE MAYOR NOR ANY COMMUNITY LEADERS!
     
  3. Nook

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    Well then better get used to it, because McNair's father is STILL alive.

    Guy could easily still be running the team in 15 years.
     
  4. Nimo

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    What has made football great is why it is having this struggle. Football has the best cross section of society when it comes to politics and race. The other leagues have a majority where you don't have much of a conflict. There are enough black and white players and fans of football and it has been beautiful the past couple decades. Now that this country is so fragmented and the tensions are high, it is reflected in the game. Just as we are questioning our relationships with our neighbors, church members, FB friends, and family; the same is happening among football fans and players. A lot of people are upset and have stopped watching football because of Karpernick. And a lot more will be upset if he signs with a team. Our society is broken and so is our football.
     
  5. ballgame

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    Part of your statement is dead-on! But I don't think Kaepernick is the root of the problem. Athletes have protested for years; Ali, Arthur Ashe, Curt Flood, etc. and nothing has triggered this amount discord within society. I think it stems for the top of America down.....Hate begets Hate!
     
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  6. Nimo

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    I didn't mean he was the problem. I was using him as an example of how split the fans are. People protested because he wasn't signed. More people threaten to boycott if he is signed
     
  7. joshuaao

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    Sports Illustrated reported in December that at least four former Panthers employees received "significant" monetary settlements due to inappropriate workplace comments and conduct by Richardson, including sexually suggestive language and behavior, and on at least one occasion directing a racial slur at an African-American Panthers scout.


    why is he like this...
     
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  8. texian

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    A lot of quote parsing going on, here's what was said regarding Panthers owner Jerry Richardson:

    “He’s an outstanding person,” McNair said. “He was very candid in what he said and what he did. And sometimes things get misunderstood. I think he was a great owner. He started with nothing and became successful in business and then got the team, which he made it Carolina’s team and not Charlotte’s team. I thought that was smart. I think that it’s a great asset over there in Carolina’s community, and it’s there because of Jerry and the bankers there supported him. They had confidence in him.

    “His operation was always fine, never created any problems that we were aware of and never created any problems for us. So I hope that this thing turns out that he’s innocent. They allege. I don’t know. But some of the comments that he might have made could have been made jokingly but misunderstood. That’s entirely possible. I’m sure he didn’t mean to offend anybody.”

    McNair said Sunday that he had received an explanation by Richardson regarding the accusations.

    “Yes, but I wouldn’t want to repeat it,” McNair said. “I understand what he’s saying. Sometimes people choose to try to make something go away rather than fighting it. And I think his regret is that he didn’t fight some of these things.

    “We get confronted with it, too, where people will allege something. They get some plaintiff’s lawyer. And what they do is they come out and they threaten you, and your legal counsel and your insurance people say, ‘Well, it’s going to cost you X number of millions of dollars to defend this. And if we can settle it for this …’ Well, wait a minute. We’re not guilty of this. Why would we do that? But that’s the pressure [to] sometimes just try to get rid of it. If you can get rid of it, do it.”

    I believe the Texans are being sued for sexual harassment/misconduct that was ongoing in the front offices at NRG, as well.
     
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  9. Nimo

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  10. Champs

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    A bit different when put into context. But thats not how the twitshow works.
     
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    Yeah it's not really surprising that the usual suspects would take comments out of context in order to push a narrative.
     
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    If you could rewind the clock and eliminate Duane Brown from the McNair discussion, it's not clear racism would even be a narrative.

    We don't really know to what extent McNair is racist, if at all, but one thing's clear...there's a lot of racism on display when calling McNair a racist.
     
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    How was McNair so loyal to Rick Smith if he is such a blatant racist?
     
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  14. Nimo

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    1. Even slave owners had house slaves that they were fond of. That is until they didn't don what they were told.
    2. Racists sometimes will have one minority friend to convince themselves and/or others that they are not racists.
    3. Rick Smith was an employee. Just like any of the other players. McNair still had the last word. Power over the oppressed is a mark for a racists.
    4. He is not racists though he has some prejudice and stereotype issues.
    5. He is being set up.
    6. Rick Smith had compromising pictures and then took leave when he saw things were getting ugly.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    So basically you'll say and believe anything to keep your false narrative alive huh?
     
  16. texian

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    Yeah, I like to hear and read what was actually said.

    But still, he needs to stop talking extemporaneously publicly. I’d love to pair him up with someone like Wade Smith for a few months just to have him explain/repeat back to him what is heard vs said... but I’m not sure he’d ever get it.
     
  17. Champs

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    Wow. You have certainly gone down the rabbit hole.
     
  18. Champs

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    For the simple fact of the twitter-cesspool world we now live in where everyone is starving for the next sound bite to get angry at... he needs to say less.
     
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    The allegations against the Panthers owner are pretty serious. For McNair, who already has made out-of-touch comments (“inmates running the prison”), to have a flippant attitude to these allegations (“I’m sure he didn’t mean to offend anyone”, “there was a misunderstanding”) is really frustrating as a fan of this team.

    McNair issued an apology for his tone-deaf inmates comment. But his words yesterday tell me that he learned very little from that experience.

    My intention was not to take his quotes out of context. I rarely post in the D&D, so I’m not clear why you characterize me as “the usual suspects”. I really wish you’d take the time to understand why people are annoyed by Bob’s comments, instead of lumping us together and treating us with nothing but condescension. But I’m probably hoping for too much there.
     
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  20. joshuaao

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    All this being said, I don’t see McNair as some malevolent force oppressing black Americans. He’s just an old man that holds outdated views, cares about his bottom line, and puts his foot in his mouth a little too often.

    There’s something to be said about being seen and not heard.
     
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