lol...you're right. MIKE BIBBY DOES NOT HAVE NBA IQ! But he can shoot... Francis and Mobley are one of the top starting backcourts in the NBA. They were like the best the past few years...but injuries... They are just as good as Nash and Finley.
You know, it's funny that you bring up that list of players. Because on that list, almost everyone of them get more respect from defence than SF and Cat. On that list, everyone except Kobe (because of Shaq), Ricky Davis (because he's young) and Allen Houston (because he plain suck) gets more double/triple teams than SF and Cat. And I don't know which Robinson you mean. On that list, most of them (TMac until late season, AI, Jalen, Pierce please don't tell me Antoine Walker, Stackhouse just retire MJ, Mash cuz BDavis is good not super) are the only scoring option on the team, which means they have to jack up shots, good or not, because they're the only ones that can score. And 6 of them shot better than SF and Cat. No I don't think scoring 30 PPG is easy and you just proved my point. I said it was luck. Early seaon he was averaging 30 PPG because his shots were falling for him, late season they weren't. I also know that the whole team disappeared when it counted and it was Steve's job to make sure that doesn't happen. Also, like I said, props to Cat where it's due.
What's the criteria of "best?" Hard to define. I'll say this - Francis and Mobley are the most dangerous... they have the potential, on any given night, to cause the most havoc of all the backcourts in the NBA today.
Good reply! "Best" is hard to quantify. But the Francis and Mobley duo is surely powerful on the offensive end. Teams hate to play us (fear) because of those two. Other teams know that if they don't contain SF and CM, it's going to be a long nigtht for them. Most teams have figured out that playing SF and CM straight up will only result in a loss. So, everyone plays team ball to beat us. That's our problem.
That's what I'm hoping what happens. If Francis would only realize that his speed and quickness can create opportunities for passing/assists (easy scores for his teammates), he'd be unstoppable.
same here. with JVG's disciplinary ways, he can straighten up steve and he might make stevie good pg.. hell, he might even make stevie as good as kidd. with stevie's quickness, he might just get all the attention from the defenders and just pass it to the wide open man. not to mention stevie's offensive prowess. man, i hope JVG can really straighten this team out.
I am not sure if many teams hate to play us. zone defense could contain SF and CM well. Otherwise Rox would have had better record than 2000 - 2001 Also, lately it was Yao who's got doubled. Ironically, many teams think he is more dangerous than SF and CM.
I think all you would have to do would be to take a poll from all the guards in the league that have to chase Francis and Mobley around the court. It's not that that our opponents don't figure out a way to beat us (w/team play), it's just that trying to defend the ISO when it gets "hot" can be a real pain for other teams/players. In the end, most of the time, we end up beating ourselves (with too much iso).
Unfortunately, there were not many times last season both of them got "hot". Most times one of them sucked. Also I guess many guards would think Kobe, Tmac or AI more dangerous than SF and Mobley combined.
If the question were "who has the most talented back court?" then you could make a case for our guys. However, they both lack discipline and they almost seem to be trying to one up each other instead of going after the other team. Cat, I think, cares to much about stats and recognition. They need to buy into a team concept and have their roles CLEARLY defined. But talented, yes.
Sf by himself is as dangerous as AI... Steve Francis is known for destroying teams with his offense. Was funny watching Kobe run around in circles to chase Steve in that 44 nite.
That was Steve's career night. Truly Amazing. But how many nights you have seen AI or Kobe played like that? AI led the team to playoff almost every year, including one final apperance. His team is even less talented than Steve's team.
k, an you teach Nash to be athletic??? No.Can you teach Francis to play less wild??? yes. Thus i would choose Francis since he has way more potential. What you see of Nash now is all you will ever see of him. What you see of Steve now will be almosted doubled.
That's right. Francis has tons of potential. He just needs to pick Van Gundy's brain and become a student of the game, and not just a student of "scoring."
