"If the rule you followed has led to you confusing "due respect" with "*******," ... of what good was the rule." :grin:
What's that old cartoon about a wife sitting up in bed, clock reads oh-dark-thirty, husband at the desk near the foot of the bed, tapping away on his computer keyboard: "I'll be in bed in a minute, honey, someone's disagreeing with me on the Internet?" Jeeeeeeeeeeeez. Bernie Sanders brings very valid points to this election but, so sorry, is all personality and no policy. And his supporters. Are. So. Very. Annoying. He doesn't walk on water.
????? The most substantive guy in the race has no policy? Have you listened to ANY of his speeches or looked at ANY of the legislation he has proposed? Of course not, you're just regurgitating a completely mislead media narrative. It's ok if you're not informed, I don't expect anyone to breathe politics, but c'mon, don't make a criticism that has no basis in reality.
Before becoming a senator or before becoming a presidential candidate? Before becoming a senator (congressman 1990-2005): Corporate Crime Accountability (February 1995): A Sanders amendment to the Victims Justice Act of 1995 required “offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white-collar crimes to give notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.” Saving Money, for Colleges and Taxpayers (April 1998): In an amendment to H.R. 6, the Higher Education Amendments of 1998, Sanders made a change to the law that allowed the Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education to make competitive grants available to colleges and universities that cooperated to reduce costs through joint purchases of goods and services Holding IRS Accountable, Protecting Pensions (July 2002): Sanders' amendment to the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003 stopped the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.” Although he faced stiff GOP opposition, his amendment still succeeded along a 308 to 121 vote. Expanding Free Health Care (November 2001): You wouldn't think Republicans would agree to an expansion of funds for community health centers, which provide some free services. But Sanders was able to win a $100 million increase in funding with an amendment. Getting Tough On Child Labor (July 2001): A Sanders amendment to the general appropriations bill prohibited the importation of goods made with child labor. Increasing Funding for Heating for the Poor (September 2004): Sanders won a $22 million increase for the low-income home energy assistance program and related weatherization assistance program. Fighting Corporate Welfare and Protecting Against Nuclear Disasters (June 2005): A Sanders amendment brought together a bipartisan coalition that outnumbered a bipartisan coalition on the other side to successfully prohibit the Export-Import Bank from providing loans for nuclear projects in China. there's a lot more but these are few good examples, read this article to get the full info. He's called the "roll call amendment king" and has been surprisingly effective as an independent: http://www.alternet.org/election-20...shing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you And btw, do some friggin research instead of making snarky memes jerk. There definitely some legitimate criticisms to be made, this is not one of them
He doesn't have near the substance that Clinton has.... in fact he has basically been Puff the Magic Dragon for most of the campaign. It was exposed in the interview where he repeatedly said "I don't know".... I appreciate the honesty and believe he is a FAR better human being than the other 3 candidates remaining but he has been low on content.
https://twitter.com/davelevinthal/status/725677061084446720 The emperor has no clothes. Still no 2015 tax return either, nor the years before 2014. But continue to worship your acclaimed god of financial righteousness. Bernie is going to be nothing more than a footnote in history when all is said and done.
I'm not surprised even given some of the comments I've seen here. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/clinton-backers-feel-the-bern-of-angry-sanders-supporters/ Clinton backers ‘feel the Bern’ of angry Sanders supporters WASHINGTON — Nancy Schumacher says she just wanted to do her civic duty, and so she heeded the call to become a superdelegate for Hillary Clinton. But in the year of the angry voter, not even an administrative assistant from Elk River, Minnesota, can escape the outrage. “Some of the (phone and email) messages called me names. Some of them called Hillary names. And others said I was a stupid b—- and something bad will happen to me,” said Schumacher, a Democratic committee member. “It’s kind of hard to take sometimes.” Bernie Sanders defied expectations to turn his long-shot presidential bid into a real threat for the Democratic nomination. Now, as his path to the White House becomes all-but-impossible, some of his supporters are lashing out at a system they believe was engineered against them from the start. While Sanders decries a “rigged” economy, some of his backers see signs of corruption everywhere — even in the party their candidate hopes to lead. Some have turned their frustration on superdelegates, the party insiders whose ability to back either candidate give them an outsized role in picking the nominee. The superdelegates include public officials: governors, former presidents and even Sanders himself. But they also include people like Schumacher, volunteers who’ve generally stayed behind the scenes. The Sanders campaign assures everyone that it doesn’t condone harassment. Yet Schumacher says she’s received vitriolic phone and email messages from self-identified Sanders backers and doesn’t quite understand how things got quite so nasty. Eight years ago, she backed Clinton but said she “cheerfully” switched to Illinois Sen. Barack Obama. She’d do the same, she said, if Sanders won the popular vote or pledged delegates from state primary elections. “I got five emails on Easter Sunday. I mean, give me a break,” she said. Barry Goodman, a personal injury lawyer in Detroit, suddenly found his firm’s Yelp business review page besieged by bad ratings. “You deserve this rating. Why does some random lawyer get more sway than the citizens,” read one comment. Gus Bickford, the former executive director of the Massachusetts Democratic Party, was taken aback by the threats that flowed into his inbox and onto his Facebook page. “Someone put up a list of the superdelegates and a person from Rhode Island posted a response that basically said, ‘They should all be assassinated’ and then said ‘I’m only joking,'” recalled Bickford. “With the way people are talking, you never know who’s going to take something like that seriously.” Bickford said many of the callers were Sanders supporters who asked him to side with the will of the people, even though Clinton narrowly won Massachusetts in March. Democrats aren’t the only ones facing this kind of barrage: Some Republican delegates say they have also found themselves at the receiving end of death threats and other personal attacks from supporters of GOP front-runner Donald Trump. But Clinton won the support of many superdelegates even before votes were cast in the primaries, and that has drawn the wrath of many Sanders partisans. Clinton is 91 percent of the way to capturing the nomination, meaning that she can lose every remaining primary by a wide margin and still become the party’s standard-bearer, according to an Associated Press analysis. It also means Sanders would need to flip hundreds of superdelegates to his side to have a shot at the nomination — including many from states that Clinton won. Though they’ve been part of Democratic presidential elections since 1984, the superdelegates have never been a determining factor. Even in 2008, when several dozen switched to Barack Obama from Clinton, Obama won enough pledged delegates to make superdelegate support largely irrelevant. Several liberal organizations have circulated petitions asking superdelegates to align their choice with the vote in their state. Even if that happened, Clinton would still likely be the nominee, given her lead in the popular vote. That leaves Sanders’ most ardent fans — many of whom are relatively new to the political process — looking for someone to blame. A Sanders backer named Spencer Thayer created the “Superdelegate Hit list,” a website to share the contact information of superdelegates so they can be pressed to switch their votes. Thayer later dropped the word “hit” after it attracted criticism. The name change didn’t reassure Clinton-backing superdelegates.. “It’s not comforting to be on anything that’s called a hit list,” said Wendy Davis, a city commissioner from Rome, Georgia. In 2007, Davis was tasked with wooing superdelegates for the presidential candidate of former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson. Now, a superdelegate herself, she was shocked when Sanders supporters accused her of being bribed by Clinton for her support. “I have been a loyal volunteer for this party. You impugn my integrity and suddenly think there’s something you can say that will draw me to you,” she said. “It’s that a whole bunch of people who haven’t been involved in the details of presidential campaigns started paying attention and suddenly don’t like the rules.”
Look, i'm open to specific criticism of his policies, but you have to stop arguing in generalities. This whole repeating "I don't know" stuff is in part an overblown media narrative. The interview itself was done by a financially struggling newspaper owned by a billionaire that has donated to the Clinton foundation. That doesn't mean that the interview had no useful substance, but there may be a conflict of interest that should be closely examined. It's hard for me to legitimately respond to your statement when you have shown no evidence that you have read the entirety of the interview and read analysis from both sides of the aisle. I encourage you to read the interview if you haven't, and respond with specific issues you had with his statements (it was by no means a flawless interview). And lastly, it's important to note that Juan Gonzalez (a journalist for Democracy Now) was in the room for that interview and even he said that he didn't quite understand the media narrative or a lot of the criticisms that came out of that interview.
I read the entire interview. Go look at the website for Hilary Clinton and her plan and compare it to the plan proffered by Sanders. There is absolutely no comparison in the level of policy details. I will give credit to Sanders for actually providing a tax budget frame work when called out on it by Clinton and the media. Still Sanders is short on details..... Not that it matters, there is zero chance he is president and zero chance his tax policy will be agreed upon by congress in his political lifetime.
The small-dollar fundraising juggernaut that has kept Bernie Sanders’s insurgent White House bid afloat far longer than anticipated has generated another unexpected impact: a financial windfall for his team of Washington consultants. By the end of March, the self-described democratic socialist senator from Vermont had spent nearly $166 million on his campaign — more than any other 2016 presidential contender, including rival Hillary Clinton. More than $91 million went to a small group of admakers and media buyers who produced a swarm of commercials and placed them on television, radio and online, according to a Washington Post analysis of Federal Election Commission reports. Over $1 million was spent on lobster sliders. https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...0170ce-0cf2-11e6-a6b6-2e6de3695b0e_story.html ]
http://m.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Threatened-Rep-Jim-McDermott-armed-himself-7381914.php CHARGES: BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER THREATENED TO CUT OUT SEATTLE CONGRESSMAN’S TONGUE A Seattle man accused of threatening to cut out U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott’s tongue now faces felony charges. King County prosecutors claim Jasper K. Bell made the threat because he was upset that McDermott, D-Seattle, was supporting Hilary Clinton for president. Currently jailed, Bell, 27, has been charged with intimidating a public servant and telephone harassment. Bell had been fixated on McDermott for some time before the April 22 incident that saw him charged, Senior Deputy Prosecutor Susan Storey said in court paper. Bell is alleged to have made threatening calls to McDermott before arriving at his Seattle office that day. “In one phone call he demanded the congressman’s home address and threatened to cut his tongue out,” Storey said in charging papers. “In another call he stated that the congressman would not be safe, even after he retires.”
Which plan? There's a ton of policy initiatives for both campaigns on bunch of issues. Also, it's important to note that Bernie has introduced actual legislation for most of his policies in Congress. (S.1373 (college for all), HR 676 (single-payer), S.332 (climate change), just to name a few). I concede that he might not know every detail form each of proposed policies, but that would be a ridiculous expectation (and if you think that is a reasonable expectation, find me one video of Hillary Clinton getting into the absolute minutia of a major policy change) Let me know which specific plans pale in comparison to Hillary's. Also, which details? What are the specific issues that he has come short on in terms of specifics and descriptions? And no, his platform does matter as well as the bills he has proposed, there are a number of progressive congressman right now that support plenty of Bernie's initiatives (take Alan Grayson's introduction of a bill that is nearly identical to Sanders' College for All Act for example) Saying that his ideas and policies will or won't be passed in his political lifetime is a pretty useless statement. The dude is 74 years old, he could drop dead tomorrow for all we know. Dismissing his proposals based on the length of his political life is like saying we shouldn't seriously look at any policy that could potentially be passed in the next 5-10 years. Especially considering that he wins young voters by a 80-20 split. I don't know old you are (maybe you're 74 years old too), maybe that is inconsequential to you, but i plan on living (knock on wood) for the next 10 years. To conclude, it might seem that i'm being ridiculously annoying, but that's because the larger point I want to make is the NO candidate knows every detail of their entire platform. Any policy wonk could make any of the existing candidates look like idiots with enough questions. Leadership and vision are far more important qualities than trivial minutia. This whole concept of Bernie not having details and not knowing what he's talking about is largely a media narrative that has been propagated by the Clinton Campaign. If you don't see that, well, I suggest getting more reliable sources of information
Ya, all democratic reps and senators are superdelegates. bernie became one the moment he became a democrat to run for president (at least, that's how i assume it went down)
