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BBALL BREAKDOWN.. bev and parsons cost us game 6?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by filamswag, May 3, 2014.

  1. Z-Ro&Trae

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    It wouldn't have even came down to this stupid play if Lin would have dribbled the clock down and looked for a better shot instead of trying to play hero ball and score a layup with two/three players bigger than him protecting the basket.:rolleyes:
     
  2. aziankingz

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    The coach was the big reason for the loss for the whole series.. no adjustments, same plays time and time again whether it worked or not, horrible rotations, underestimating the opponents, basically being out-coached.
     
  3. Aleron

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    You think 1 shot and the ball back is a good option with a 2 point lead? Remember how that worked out for Washington?
     
  4. champstocome

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    I said foul off the ball...not foul the shooter or even let them get a shot off. WE HAD A FOUL TO GIVE.
     
  5. Yao4REAL

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    1. Stupid lession #1: Do not ever switch Beverley on Lilliard
    2. Stupid lession #2: Never put Parson on Lilliard
    3. Stupid lession #3: Learn to front your man instead of tailing him especially when the ball is on the other side of the court.
    4. Stupid lession #4: With .09 sec left, could have used Jones to defend another body.

    Conclusion: This team is "STUPID." Game over!
     
  6. HardenWay

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    The problem is before that, each player should have had clear instructions. If they were prepared they wouldn't have been talking about who each guy should guard.

    Mchale clearly says stay with your man, as shown in the video Beverly positions himself in a position where he isn't planning to switch.

    Mchale needed to have the match-ups set, and instructed the players to switch when necessary.

    The coach has to take control, have all the attention of the players and with such and inexperianced team, make sure they are prepared.
     
  7. calcium

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    I think a play like this would require the coach's direction.

    And I dont think McHale is into this type of basketball.
     
  8. muratcet

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    Why is experience so important in basketball, every mistake you make hurts and you make arrangements if you are good and clever enough. Just look at the Steve Blake shot and how open he was while shooting the game winner. If you experience that situation in the same season and still didnt get ready for this moment, you are not well coached. Every single player on court should know what to do after loosing to the Lakers in the same way.
     
  9. tycoonchip

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    You double team lillard and anyone that has any capability of hitting a 3. If they git a two it is over time. A three kills us. Again play smarter should be our moto.
     
  10. shastarocket

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    I don't understand this logic.

    0.9 seconds translates to an obvious catch and shoot situation. Too much depends on when the refs actually call the foul. Even if we foul away from the ball, we run the risk of a "shot + foul" situation.

    Typically, you take the foul-to-give in order to whittle down the clock and force the other team into a hurried shot. In this case, the clock was already practically gone and they definitely had to take a hurried shot.

    In other words, taking that foul is a terrible idea.
     
  11. juanm34

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    That's the Stern shot clock settings. Remember Derek fisher had .4 sec to dribble, crossover and drink a Gatorade before he shot a game winning 3 against the Spurs some years ago.
     
  12. ralphabetsoup

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    As a TV analyst he's real confident and even informative.

    As a coach (which is a harder job, obviously), he just seems and sounds clueless - as far as having that multi-perspective that makes a great strategic coach.
     
  13. Panda23

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    wasnt like aldridge was going to get a decent contest on the shot anyway. was so far away.

    DAMMIT OMER!!!
     
  14. joesr

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    Moreys fault, kbai@
     
  15. jedicro

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    Yeah, because we'd be able to get a foul called in .9 seconds.

    Lulz
     
  16. jamphus

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    you meant by coach harden or coach mchale?

    :confused:
     
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    Just re-watched the game, and realized James Harden is not only player who changed the arrangement.

    Here is a picture of the initial layout for the last 0.9 sec. We can see Lin was on the court, James is on Aldridge, and Dwight is against the inbound, that's right after the timeout and after McHale says "stay with your guys".

    Then Parsons somehow stopped James, and then goes to Dwight and try to switch with him, ask Dwight to go against Aldridge, and that would put James on Matthews. That's the time McHale called the second timeout, and then we can see his adjustment, he took Parson's suggestion of get Dwight on Aldridge, but he don't want Parsons on the ball, so he put TJ in, and get Lin out.

    After that we all see, James further adjusted the layout, ask Parson and Beverley to switch.

    There is no point to further discuss which way is better, I just find it interesting that player would adjust coaches arrangement right out of timeout TWICE in one play. And it is not just James who is doing that, Parsons did it too. Also by the way players responded to the request for changes from Parsons and James, it feels like that they are pretty used to this kind of adjustment.

    So my feeling is that when McHale called a timeout, he might only give out command as "no threes, stay with your guys", but no really in details who is guarding who, what to do in each situations, but rather left it to the players to "read and react"? And good thing is that there are plenty of communications within the players there, like James and Parsons last minute adjustment, but there are lots of times that players are not on the same page if there is not enough time for them to talk it out.

    Maybe that's why people say McHale is a player's coach, and players actually like him? In that case, McHale will need a strong leader on the court, someone like Kidd, who would work as a player's coach and convert McHale's command to detailed assignment, further guide players on court. If that is really true, I do think Rando would work nicely.
     
  18. bro2044

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    um...WOW the clock started late? He had to time to grab, turn, and jump before it even started!!!
     

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