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Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Brandyon, Aug 28, 2013.

  1. sammy

    sammy Contributing Member

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    We all expect better. It's disappointing to hear these allegations. Let's see if anything comes from it.

    On a positive note, I'm excited about Baylor's class.. Getting Parrish will be big and I'm glad Hudson didn't flip to Texas.
     
  2. sammy

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    Baylor and Ole Miss verbally commit for a game in Houston in 2020.
     
  3. J Sizzle

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    That's a great matchup.

    Wish there were less neutral site games, though. I love the home-and-homes.
     
  4. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Contributing Member

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    Care to make a $10 bet to the CF tip jar that Baylor will be under NCAA sanctions by then?
     
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  5. sammy

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    I love it. Texas fans are becoming the biggest Baylor haters. Esp the t shirt ones. Does this mean we've made it?

    Also, how about we bet on the game in Austin? :)
     
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  6. sammy

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    Yep would love a reason to hit up their tailgate.
     
  7. peleincubus

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    rape is fun!!
     
  8. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Contributing Member

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    This isn't about football. It's about turning a blind eye to rape and keeping a guy on campus despite accusations. NOTHING to do with football. The 200 Waco students/residents that showed up outside the Baylor President's house weren't all t-Shirt UT fans.

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  9. sammy

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    We're disappointed with the way the university has handled cases. Texas fans are asking for Briles' job. Not bc of rape but bc of what's happening on the football field. If we're not winning, nobody would care.
     
  10. Brando2101

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    Get over yourself.
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

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    Right, the only reason anybody cared about the Dave Bliss scandal was because Baylor was such a powerhouse back then.
     
  12. sammy

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    Speaking of scandals.... :)
     
  13. raining threes

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    Awesome reply and I'm a UT fan.

    Wish I could rep you, all of these schools live in some kind of glass houses.
     
  14. Brando2101

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    What the hell is wrong with you? We are talking about women being raped and being turned away by the university. The team letting the guy stay on the team to keep raping. Which he did. Do you not understand how morally reprehensible this is? This isn't about BS my college is better than you internet wars. This is something on a completely different scale.

    The accusations against Baylor are closer to Penn St than anything else going on in college football. You need to grow up and realize we aren't talking about football. It's funny that the school is being accused of not taking these reports of rape seriously and neither are some of their fans on this board.
     
  15. Brando2101

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    The lawsuit against Art Briles, Ian McCaw (Athletic Director), and the Baylor University Board of Regents has been filed. The university will probably be hammered by their general response to someone coming to the university for help. The big thing for Briles is if he knew that the player (who is now in jail) was accused by 5 other women before this attack took place. According the the lawsuit, Baylor's Chief Judicial Officer says he did. Briles secretary is the only other person (I believe) that attested to what Briles was aware of. That is the only evidence against Briles which isn't much hard proof but it'll get everyone to testify on record as to who knew what. He'll probably make it out of this but I think the AD is going to fall on the sword.



    The entire lawsuit: https://www.scribd.com/doc/306548127/Baylor-Title-IX-Lawsuit

    http://deadspin.com/lawsuit-baylor-took-no-action-to-investigate-rape-invo-1768264150


    A huge factor will be if the plantifs can bring up the Sam Ukwuachu case to establish a pattern. There are conflicting accounts to if Baylor officials/coaches knew Ukwuachu was kicked out of Boise for violence against women. Briles and Boise coach Chris Peterson were basically calling each other liars. No proof I don't believe. http://www.texasmonthly.com/article/silence-at-baylor/
    http://espn.go.com/college-football...rs-coach-art-briles-sam-ukwuachu-violent-past
     
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    Seems like it could blow up pretty big. Horrible if true. Reserving judgement until we hear more.
     
  17. MadMax

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    Similar allegations at the University of Tennessee right now...allegations the University knew very well what was going on, and helped the players over the victims...even getting the accused athletes high-paid lawyers:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...e-culture-lawsuit_us_56bb6e6be4b0c3c5504fa164

    Here's another one that went the other way in a small school in Ohio...they expelled the kids accused of rape in that case so quickly that they're now being sued for racism in handling it that way:

    http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/25751/

    University of Kansas just got sued for lack of dorm safety because of a rape occurring there by a football player:

    http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article66522802.html

    Here's an article about an official at Florida State citing to 20 rape claims in 9 years and how athletes were given special treatment.

    http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...ns-against-football-players-in-9-years-112515


    All these articles are from the last year...the first 3, above, are all 2016 stories. The Tennessee lawsuit was just filed in February.

    I think what we're finding here is rape is a problem on college campuses...that it seems to be happening in athletic programs quite a bit....and that universities are terrible at investigating it and/or preventing it. Universities seem ill-equipped to be in the business of investigation after the fact. But they seem to be creating cultures where people are turning a blind eye to these things way too often.
     
  18. Brando2101

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    Another Baylor football player accused of sexual assult. First, it is just an allegation at this point. It certainly doesn't help that the program is being sued for an institutional failure however that can't suggest that this person is guilty.

    EDIT: Now being identified as Former Baylor Bears defensive end Shawn Oakman


    http://collegesports.blog.statesman...player-is-being-investigated-on-rape-charges/





    Waco police have searched the residence of a Baylor football player as part of its investigation to determine whether he sexually assaulted a fellow student this past weekend.

    The Waco Tribune Herald reported details of the investigation Thursday night. But the newspaper did not identify the player because no arrest had been made. The report said that the person was a “prominent player from Baylor University’s 2015 football team.”

    According to court records, quoted by the newspaper, the woman said the assault occurred between 2 a.m. and 3 a.m. Sunday morning after she met the player at a Waco nightclub. The two walked to his duplex and she told police that he forced himself on her.

    The woman told police she quickly left the duplex after the alleged assault. But she left her underwear and an earring at the duplex.

    Police said the player told them the sex was consensual.

    Police went to the duplex Sunday afternoon. Court documents show that they took two comforters and bed sheets.

    The woman also was examined at a local hospital.

    Baylor already has had two players convicted for sexual assault since 2014. One rape victim reached a settlement with the school, while a second filed a lawsuit last week, saying the school failed to protect her.

    Tevin Elliott, a defensive end, was convicted in January, 2014. Prosecutors said he had raped five women.

    Baylor coach Art Briles suspended Elliott when he was accused of rape by the woman, who filed the lawsuit.

    Elliott started 11 games over two seasons. In 2012, two weeks after two women accused Elliott of rape, Briles suspended him from the football program. However, ESPN reported that in November 2011, Elliott was cited for a misdemeanor assault charge for inappropriate touching of a woman who attended a community college in Waco. ESPN said that the school lawyers knew of the citation.

    Boise State transfer Sam Ukwuachu, who was on the Baylor team but never played, also was found guilty of sexual assault.

    He was sentenced to six months in state jail last August. His assault occurred in October, 2013, when he was sitting out the season because of transfer rules. After he was accused, Ukwuachu was suspended, but was allowed to stay in school.

    The conviction prompted Baylor to hire the Philadelphia-based law firm Pepper Hamilton to review how the school handled the Ukwuachu case.
     
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  19. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another day, another report about Baylor doing nothing about sexual assaults on their campus <a href="https://t.co/yWAqRlM85n">https://t.co/yWAqRlM85n</a></p>&mdash; Anwar Richardson (@AnwarRichardson) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnwarRichardson/status/720286280433532929">April 13, 2016</a></blockquote>
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    Baylor didn't investigate sex assault claim against players for two years
     
  20. Buck Turgidson

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    Not sure why Baylor's behavior surprises anyone. One of their most prominent alums raped a couple of million baseball fans and they named a stadium after him.
     

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