Barkley taking shots @ Hakeem/Rockets for "Tainted Titles" during Jordan's retirement

Last time I checked, Shaq didn't beat Jordan in the Finals either.

****** Barkley.

 

Using Barkley's logic, all of Shaq's titles are tainted, as he didn't start winning rings until Hakeem stopped averaging 30 minutes/game and was past his prime.

Next?...

 

shoulda woulda coulda

 

Though we don't associate, me and tinman are from the same era. Similar interests.

That said and being that I have the similar interests, there's no way I'd have the gumption to express and promote them so hypocritically and trollfully.

I'll talk about Naughty By Nature all day, I'll represent Rockets flambouyantly with no shame. I like historical references, but sorry I'll go to someone like Dr of Dunk for the historical accuracy

 

Whether we like it or not, this pointless argument will go on as long as there are hater Bulls fans and disgruntled ex-Rockets. No matter how many times we prove them wrong. So i say let them hate and make idiots of themselves. The proof will always be there. Didn't Hoeass....i mean Horace Grant just try this last week? I bet Pippen is next.

 

The only reason he has that job is so people can laugh at him.

 

I actually like him on TNT. He adds another dimension to the show that makes it more watchable. Just have to remember that every now and then, he will say something stupid.

 

Charles Barkley has an I.Q. of about 65-70. Why does anyone even take him seriously? He is r****ded.

 

Just one word to describe charles barkley putting such an emphasis on championships when determining great players....

Spoiler

 

If you look at the 3 titles that Jordan won prior to retiring the first time...Houston had a 5-1 record against the Bulls during those 3 years so to say that Houston couldnt hang with Chicago isnt true. I know its the regular season but these idiots like Barkley give absolutely 0 facts or numbers to support his asinine opinion. You also have to take into account that Michael had 2 years to recoup from the NBA and you cant tell me that him being 100% fresh for his comeback didnt have anything to do with his success upon his return. People forget that the reason why he retired to begin with was because his father was brutally murdered on the side of a road in his vehicle. With the close relationship he and his father had...can you honestly tell me that he could focus his mind and body towards a 4th title and the mental fortitude to win 8 in a row? Really? Now you can say "ifs" and "could'ves" but Im giving you facts.

 

Barfley, I disagree with you on this one. The more he talks about the Rockets, the more I hate him. He really needs to look beyond the hatred for the Rockets. If MJ's dad was alive at that time, then there is more debate, but given that his dad was gone, Jordan didn't have the hunger. Not only that, Jordan had an affair, addiction to golf and a gambling problem around the Bulls dynasty era. All this add up to unfocused MJ. The wide-length Rockets #4 didn't point up the negs on #23, so his argument is pro-Jordan. That is just TERRRRRIIIBLE!!!!!

 

Suck it, Chuck.

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When has Charles been right about the Rockets?

 

The way I see it, if we had not given away Horry and Cassell for Barkley, we might have 3-4 championships.

 

Technically, Kobe, Wilt and Russell all won their rings without Jordan.

I guess those are tainted too.

 

Whenever Charles talks about championships, all I can hear is Mike Bibby saying to him, "How do you know Charles?"

 

Once again Dream, Rockets and the city of Houston get are under appreciated.

 

MJ was a better basketball player in 95 than 96. His TS% was a little lower and he committed more turnovers but his rebounding, steals, blocks, assists, and eFG% were all better.

http://www.basketball-reference.com...tat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws

People like Chuck need to cry less and just accept their inferiority.

 

Since this topic has been talked to death, especially in here. I'd like to add another angle to this argument....

If Jordan stayed, and let's just, for the sake of argument, that he's able to do something to prevent the Rockets from winning. I'm not even talking about the Bulls winning the championships in '94 and '95. I'm just saying that maybe seedings would've been different in the West with Jordan around. A win here, a loss there, etc. A different team ends up in the finals and the Rockets might end up playing Seattle or someone else that seemingly had their numbers. What would happen then?!?

Also, more importantly, if Jordan is that unstoppable in the playoffs and they went on to win those two years, Pippen never developed fully and players such as Kukoc might not get a chance to get used to the NBA. Would Grant leave? Would Cartwright stay another year or two? Would they get to draft Simpkins and Caffey? Would Armstrong prove to be useful and Harper might not be a Bull? More or less, if Pippen never got to develop fully, would they then win in '96, '97, '98? Maybe they wouldn't have enough to beat Seattle or Utah....

What's to say that the teams would stay the same and that the Bulls would continue to win? Everyone liked to play the maybe game with Jordan, but the fact of the matter is: he retired, we won. Any questions about what ifs in terms of Jordan and those two years have a butterfly effect. This has always been a stupid argument because there are not only two teams in the NBA.

 

Mike only left for one season..