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Barack's state of the union 2014: "Since I am incapable of working w/ congress, I'll play dictator"

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He's trying to shift the souring view of his leadership. He's expected to stress that he intends to take unilateral action on a host of issues, since he didn't come close to accomplishing his objectives from last year's speech. He's frustrated and desperate to accomplish something. Less people expected to watch this year.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...5163039263136.html?mod=WSJ_hp_RightTopStories

WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama's State of the Union address Tuesday night will seek to shift the public's souring view of his leadership, a challenge the White House sees as critical to shaping the nation's policy direction over the next three years.

Mr. Obama will emphasize his intention to use unilateral presidential authority—bypassing Congress when necessary—to an extent not seen in his previous State of the Union speeches, White House officials said.

#1 bigtexxx, Jan 27, 2014

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It's a shame republicans are unable to get anything done.

They don't even have a direction, it is simply attack the president and oppose everything he does. If they could work and put forward legislation to do something rather than try to chop away everything maybe something could be done. Instead all efforts are at attacking Obamacare.

#2 chrispbrown, Jan 27, 2014
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The clown show cranking it up early today.

#3 CometsWin, Jan 27, 2014
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Also, I'd suggest not making up quotes. Not only does it look desperate, it negates all validity of your stance. Should lock this up and try again.

#4 chrispbrown, Jan 27, 2014
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#5 jo mama, Jan 27, 2014
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It's about time. All presidents do this.

#6 white lightning, Jan 27, 2014
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white lightning said: ↑

It's about time. All presidents do this.
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Yes they do.

I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it. It is my style. When you win, there is ... a feeling that the people have spoken and embraced your point of view. And that's what I intend to tell Congress, that I made it clear what I intend to do as the president

President George W. Bush speaking to reporters at his first news conference following his re-election.

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Good. I hope he goes all out. I even hope that he calls off the 2016 elections and stays in office for another four years. Maybe that would remind people why we have checks and balances in the first place.

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Barack Obama dominates bigtexxx's thoughts and controls bigtexxx's emotions.

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thanks for the heads up for tomorrow- I look forward to the POTUS saying that false, made up, misattributed thing in "quotation" marks.

#10 across110thstreet, Jan 27, 2014
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yo said: ↑

Barack Obama dominates bigtexxx's thoughts and controls bigtexxx's emotions.
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Good God you said a mouthful brother

#11 mc mark, Jan 27, 2014
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chrispbrown said: ↑

If they could work and put forward legislation to do something rather than try to chop away everything maybe something could be done. Instead all efforts are at attacking Obamacare.
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They have put forth plenty of plans. The most recent came today

Patient Choice, Affordability, Responsibility and Empowerment Act.

Sens. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., Richard Burr, R-N.C., and Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, would repeal Obamacare as part of the Patient Choice, Affordability, Responsibility and Empowerment Act. But in crafting a replacement, the lawmakers were cognizant of both the popular and unpopular aspects of Obamacare.

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Under the replacement proposal, as is the case with Obamacare, insurers would be barred from imposing lifetime limits on medical claims and required to allow individuals to remain on their parents’ policies until the age of 26.

Under the rules of Obamacare, insurers can only charge three times as much to older Americans as they charge younger Americans, one of the factors that has driven up the price of insurance for the young. The Coburn-Burr-Hatch proposal would create a federal benchmark allowing insurers to charge older Americans five times as much. However, states would be permitted to set their own ratio below that amount, or opt out of the requirement altogether.

To address those with pre-existing conditions, who have been among the major targeted beneficiaries of Obamacare, the GOP proposal would require insurers to offer coverage to anybody who has applied as long as they have maintained continuous coverage, regardless of whether they are switching health plans or shifting from employer-based health care to the individual market. The theory is that this would offer some protection to those with pre-existing conditions without having the same effect on premiums as Obamacare’s full ban on the practice. At the same time, the idea is that this would create an incentive for everybody to maintain their insurance coverage, thus negating the need for the individual mandate.

For years, most free market health care proposals began with the idea of ending the discrimination in the tax code that gives an unfair advantage to those who obtain health insurance through their employers. But in consideration of the backlash against the way that Obamacare has disrupted people’s insurance coverage, the new GOP proposal would maintain the employer health insurance bias. Instead of scrapping the employer health insurance tax exclusion, the proposal would merely cap it at 65 percent of the average plan’s costs.

The savings generated by capping the exclusion would be used to help finance tax credits to be offered to individuals earning up to 300 percent of the federal poverty level (or annual earnings of about $35,000 for an individual). A new division of the U.S. Department of Treasury known as the Office of Health Financing would administer the credits. Obamacare’s subsidies are more generous and go up to 400 percent of the federal poverty level.

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The issue is you just aren't paying attention and aren't familiar with any of the Republican plans.

Full proposal here

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tallanvor said: ↑

They have put forth plenty of plans. The most recent came today

Patient Choice, Affordability, Responsibility and Empowerment Act.

The issue is you just aren't paying attention and aren't familiar with any of the Republican plans.

Full proposal here
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Step 1. Repeal obamacare. Still can't get past this idea.

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chrispbrown said: ↑

Step 1. Repeal obamacare. Still can't get past this idea.
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You cant get past what idea?

#14 tallanvor, Jan 27, 2014
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tallanvor said: ↑

Full proposal here
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Why replace Obamacare with a watered down version of Obamacare?

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In 30 years Barry will be on money.... will be praised in the public school curriculum as a trailblazer that overcame racism from the Right and championed gay rights and the common man..... the youth of today (many of them minorities or biracial) will discuss how Obama made them feel like they could make it, if he could.... those same young people will write history books and be on television.

The Republicans are going to hate it....... but it will happen. My sister and brother are public school teachers in the suburbs and Obama is a hero to the students........

We are living through history, and yes it will be remembered with rose colored glasses... but it is happening, and nothing can be done to stop it.

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mc mark said: ↑

Why replace Obamacare with a watered down version of Obamacare?
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That's amusing. The Patient Choice plan looks a lot like Obamacare. Odd, I wonder where they came up with it? Hmmm....

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I wouldn't sign on to anything written by Orrin Hatch, it will just be Obamacare light, as others have said. Hatch is a Chamber of Commerce big government Republican.

something like this would be better

http://rsc.scalise.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rsc_hc_bill_-_2_pager.pdf

The SOTU will be about stuff no one cares about: climate change, gays, immigration, income inequality, etc.

The economy, unemployment, debt, healthcare, will be largely ignored.

A summary of the true SOTU:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/369451/republicans-insist-self-destructing-peter-kirsanow

Let’s review: President Obama’s approval rating hovers around 40 percent. Millions have lost their health-insurance plans due to Obamacare; millions more have seen their premiums and deductibles increase. The labor-force-participation rate is at historic lows and a record 92 million Americans – nearly 10 million more than when Obama took office — are not in the workforce. The 16 million Americans who’ve gone on food stamps since the president took office bring the total to 48 million, or one in seven Americans, dependent on the government for food. The poverty rate has spiked 32 percent. The national debt stands at 17.3 trillion, more than 7 trillion more than when candidate Obama declared the debt unpatriotic.
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Commodore said: ↑

The SOTU will be about stuff no one cares about: climate change, gays, immigration, income inequality, etc.
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You certainly have the pulse of the American people. haha

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Commodore said: ↑

The SOTU will be about stuff no one cares about: climate change, gays, immigration, income inequality, etc.

The economy, unemployment, debt, healthcare, will be largely ignored.
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um..according to our resident bigot, the point of this thread and the SOTU is to talk about how Obama will circumvent congress on the economy and unemployment.

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