To my own different prespective: Junior Bridgman career should be ranked at something ;600milion$ and an iconic Breaking Bad personage
Looking at those ahead of him, I think Dirk might be in about the right spot. I could see arguments around Karl Malone, and maybe David Robinson--but I imagine both of their defensive stats were better. Would like to read the analysis on him (been living in Dallas throughout his career). In general, I think he is offensively underrated, in that the entire team does better when he is on the court--but the analysis would capture that. Still does, for that matter, even at this stage. Defensively, he was weak initially, better than given credit for in the middle of his career, and a large defensive liability in the past few years. Because...40.
For those who enjoyed the series, The Thinking Basketball Podcast is doing a 5 year revisit to the top 40 careers through the last NBA season. Only 2 names drop from the list. Only 1 current player jumps into the list. Really interesting and enjoyable listen for NBA junkies. First 3 episodes of the revisit.
For those who just want the updated list here’s where he has gotten so far in the revisit. Ray Allen and McHale were the two bumped. James Harden and Isiah Thomas join the list. 29. Reggie Miller 30. James Harden 31. Bob Pettit 32. John Havlicek 33. Jason Kidd 34. Artis Gilmore 35. Patrick Ewing 36. Paul Pierce 37. Walt Frazier 38. Elgin Baylor 39. Isiah Thomas 40. Clyde Drexler Honorable Mentions : Gervin, Cowens, Gary Payton, Elvin Hayes, Ray Allen, McHale, Giannis, Jokic, Kawhi And before anyone goes nuts he specifically mentions Giannis and Jokic as two who are essentially locks to jump in to this list with a few more years under their belts. Also Kawhi if he can stay healthy and produce a few more great years.
Giannis, Jokic and Kawhi were the 3 players currently playing that were closest to making the list(under the criteria he laid out for this exercise) that are essentially locks to make it with a few more seasons. He did not claim that no other current players would ever make the list. Someone you think is being overlooked? Keep in mind there are other current players higher up on this list that he just hasn’t gotten to yet in the revisit.
I like his work, but think he has a bias against Harden. He’s got him ranked fairly high but still too low.
I feel like I have felt the same way in the past when he has discussed Harden, but he seemed to be pretty fair in the revisit podcast when talking about how good he has been. For example he said Harden clearly peaked higher than Reggie, but for now Reggie just has more volume to compensate. He also said that he thinks there is a credible argument as far as offensive peaks to put him in the top 10ish range. Didn’t seem to think that Harden was incapable of pushing into the 20s as far as best careers and I think that’s pretty fair.
Oh no. I was unclear. He said that Leonard could make it if he was healthy. So I was making a joke about him never being healthy... Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Paul Pierce kinda high on that list that 08 Celtics ring is the most milked ring of all time Doc Rivers is still coasting on that ring Paul Pierce had barely done anything of note his whole career until Ainge built a super team
He's got 8 double digit win share seasons and 150 for his career, so that's pretty damn good. Someone like iverson only has 3 double digit and 100 for his career (not that anyone thinks iverson is in pierce's class)
he barely did anything of note for the 1st 9 years of his career until Ainge got him Allen and Garnett who was the best player on that 08 championship team How is Pierce better all-time than a Clyde Drexler or Isiah Thomas?
clyde had 7 double digit seasons and 135 total, isiah had only 1 season in double digits and like 80 total. Honestly, i was shocked to see Isiah in the top 75 team let alone this top 40 ranking. Saying pierce did nothing is silly, outside of a few guys like lebron and jordan, you need a team around you. Nobody who's gonna be outside of the top 20 will be able to achieve much on their own
Is this a win shares ranking? What exactly did he do before Allen and Garnett? There is no way he is better or had a better career than Clyde Drexler who had a better career WS/48 than him anyways. Isiah Thomas has 2 rings and better accolades. Paul Pierce never even made an All-NBA 2nd Team and finished in the top 10 for MVP voting just once
Ya you’re looking at it as if everyone had the exact same situation. Isiah won rings because he was on really good teams, he himself isn’t a top 50 player imo though like i said, i’m super surprised that his data suggests he is
