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Astros Trade for Roberto Osuna

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by mikol13, Jul 30, 2018.

  1. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I bet those players won't utter a word to Osuna in the clubhouse. They'll suddenly go silent since this is a big leaguer in their face and not a minor leaguer not even in the same zip code.
     
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  2. raining threes

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    Not IMHO
     
  3. Major

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    What he was charged with is not necessarily the same as what happened. So everything you post as fact ("he didn't hit her") is speculative. Yet you dismiss equal speculation based on facts that HeyNow posts (facts like willfully accepting a 75 game suspension, loss of $2+ million, etc).
     
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    The fact that the team felt it necessary to fly out the GM and the owner to LA, have multiple team meetings, etc suggests that they feel like this is a more complex situation than you want to believe.
     
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  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Sounds like the same speculation people are making about Osuna and what he did. Basically everything other than facts.
     
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  6. Hey Now!

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    You don't remember them doing the same thing last year when they traded for Justin Verlander?.....
     
  7. Hey Now!

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    FACT: He was arrested & charged with assault
    FACT: MLB suspended hims 75 games, the second-longest domestic violence-related punishment in league history
    FACT: neither he, nor his union, appealed the suspension
    FACT: he lost *millions* of dollars by not appealing
    FACT: the Blue Jays traded him
    FACT: the Astros have repeatedly mentioned "second chance" in their messaging

    Those are not speculation.
     
  8. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Fact: no one has details of the allegations.
     
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  10. Hey Now!

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    Fact, we have plenty of actions taken by various independent entities as a result of the incident - some with access to the victim - and none are indicative of a situation in which Osuna didn't do something egregiously wrong.
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

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    Careful, outraged fans will say that's Osuna beating that horse even though there's no proof.
     
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    I’m not dismissing anything.
    I’m focusing on these three things
    1.We know he was charged with simple assault in Canada
    2. We know the definition of simple assault in Canada
    3. We know what a Attorney said based on her experience dealing with simple assault cases in Canada.

    What is the Attorney from the article getting wrong based on her experience with Canadian Law?
     
  13. Astrodome

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    All 3 announcers on BSPN last night said the astros lost integrity by this acquisition. Aroldis "shoots up this house during a domestic dispute" Chapman comes in and blows the game. Not a word of his transgressions.
     
  14. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    Any of you going to stop watching the Astros or change your Astros consumption in any way? Will you continue to support this business?
     
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    I'm guessing it just doesn't fit a certain narrative. I thought that article gave the best insight to what Osuna is actually guilty of. Much better than the narrative that his real name is Ike Turner.
     
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    It’s the best path to follow at the moment.
    Without any information out there we need to follow the rule of Canadian law...
    1.We know he was charged with simple assault in Canada
    2. We know the definition of simple assault in Canada
    3. We know what a Attorney said based on her experience dealing with simple assault cases in Canada.

    Who would you listen to?
    An attorney who has handled many of these cases or emotional fans on the internet?

    That’s what we have right now
     
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    I think the length of the suspension has a lot to do with MLB protecting their brand as well as the facts that they had access to regarding the incident. My guess is that if the police are called at all related to a DV claim, and the victim is quickly determined to not be a complete liar, then the suspension is going to be heavy...and rightfully so, IMO.

    You're using the suspension length as a clear sign of guilt. I look at it as the new norm with the MLB, especially on the heels of the Danrys Vasquez video.
     
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  18. homewight

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    Assuming he hit her is just as speculative.
     
  19. homewight

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    You need to get off your high horse, kiddo. That or find a new team to whine about sanctimoniously.
     
  20. ipaman

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    FACT: Lawyer says he's pleading not guilty.
    FACT: Court date is in Sept.
    FACT: Presumption of Innocence is a legal right in Canada and the US.
    FACT: It seems you don't care about any of that **** do you?!
     

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