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Assigning Responsibility - Ty Lawson's 28 Points

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RoxOn RoxOff, Nov 16, 2013.

  1. RoxOn RoxOff

    RoxOn RoxOff Member

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    Quarter 1 - 2 points


    1:51 Ty Lawson makes driving layup 20-32

    Jeremy was guarding Lawson. Darrell Arthur screens Jeremy. Casspi who was on Arthur didn't rotate to pick up Lawson, open layup.

    Quarter 2 - 3 points


    4:13 30-52 Jeremy Lin shooting foul (Ty Lawson draws the foul)

    Lin was guarding Lawson and was caught out of position against a driving Lawson, shooting foul.

    0:34 Ty Lawson makes layup 44-63

    Lin was guarding Lawson. Lawson drives, Lin got screened by Hickson, DMo's man. DMo was lost in traffic and never saw Lawson, layup.


    Quarter 3 - 6 points


    10:18 Ty Lawson makes 18-foot two point shot 50-66

    Lawson was guarded by Pat Bev. Pat Bev screened by Hickson, Lawson makes J.

    9:45 Ty Lawson makes 20-foot jumper 52-66

    Lawson was guarded by Pat Bev on fast break. Lawson drives and collapses defense and then pulls back for the open J.

    5:37 61-80 Patrick Beverley shooting foul (Ty Lawson draws the foul)

    Lawson was guarded by Pat Bev. Foye screens Pat Bev. Lawson drives and Pat Bev was caught out of position, shooting foul. James was on Foye.

    Quarter 4 - 17 points


    9:07 Ty Lawson makes 13-foot two point shot 81-94

    Lawson guarded by Pat Bev. Darrell Arthur screens Pat Bev. Lawson took open J.

    5:24 Ty Lawson makes 25-foot three point jumper (Wilson Chandler assists) 89-99

    Lawson guarded by Lin. Lawson passed to Wilson Chandler, who drives. Lin over-helps, leaving Lawson free for the 3.

    5:03 Ty Lawson makes 23-foot three point jumper 91-101

    Lin was screened by Foye. Harden picked up Lawson and sagged off Lawson, Lawson takes open J.

    3:57 Ty Lawson makes driving layup 97-108

    Lin screened by Foye, Harden picks up Lawson. With five fouls, Harden didn't contest when Lawson drove in for the lay-up.

    3:36 Ty Lawson makes driving layup 99-111

    Harden picks up Lawson. With five fouls, Harden didn't contest when Lawson drove in for the lay-up.

    2:42 Ty Lawson makes 23-foot two point shot 103-118

    Lin guarded Lawson. Hickson screened Lin, Lawson took quick open J.

    2:20 Ty Lawson makes two point shot 105-118

    Lin guarded Lawson. Got beat.

    0:59 107-122 Jeremy Lin shooting foul (Ty Lawson draws the foul)

    Lin guarded Lawson. Hickson screened and Harden switched onto Lawson. Lawson drives between Lin and Harden, Lin fouls to save lay-up.

    Takeaways

    All the talk about Rockets PGs not being able to handle quicker guards like Lawson is just lazy analysis. There are a couple of plays where the guards are beat off the dribble but if you go through the plays, you'll see that the reason why Lawson scores when he did is because of his very quick J off of screens. That's the dangerous part and our bigs are afraid of coming up to contest that shot because of Lawson's speed. That's what makes him good, the ability to drive and shoot. But let's chill-out a little bit on the our PGs suck at defense thing.
     
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  2. haoafu

    haoafu Contributing Member

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    Appreciate the work.
     
  3. dandorotik

    dandorotik Contributing Member

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    Who gives a &&&&, really? Ty Lawson is capable of scoring 30+ on any given night- he's that good. Doesn't matter who's guarding him. Same with someone like Steph Curry, Carmelo Anthony, etc.- some guys are just born scorers- best you can do is slow them down or shut everyone else down- or, better yet, make them work on defense- which is exactly what Lin did.
     
  4. daywalker02

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    His team failed.... also how many points did he have at the half?
     
  5. LonghornFan

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    Thanks for the post. We won though, big. Who cares. **** happens, they're all pro's.
     
  6. valorita

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    the breakdowns in assignments and rotations i understand... it's a learning process.
    what i can't condone is harden's piss poor excuse of what he calls defense.
    he's pretty much a traffic cone out there on most plays.
    honestly, his careless turnovers and terrible defense are really, really unexcusable
    especially from your so called "leader'
     
  7. RoxOn RoxOff

    RoxOn RoxOff Member

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    Agreed but...

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    I think this is better than some of the crappy kneejerks that you see elsewhere.
     
  8. Panda23

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    yeah lawson is pretty good...
     
  9. Amiga

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    its clealy all on ab0
     
  10. Pumpedupkicks

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    How about Lawson's career high 17 assists? Lawson was practically responsible for more than half of the team's points. Our guards need to stop giving away career highs.
     
  11. knickstorm

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    LOL the dude piled it out in garbage time and we're going to take that seriously??
     
  12. torocan

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    Assists don't come from the person guarding Lawson, they come from the team being either slow on rotations or not closing to contest shooters. In other words, help defense or losing your man.

    The whole goal of PnR defense is to get the ball out of the ball handler's hands. Then it's up to the rest of the team to beat you.

    So, if an opposing PG goes for zero points and 20 assists, that's ideal from the perspective of the person guarding the ball handler. That means they've done the first part of their job. The rest is on the team to minimize the damage of the pass receiver (scores or assists).

    So, if Lawson tosses an alley oop to their Center, that's not on the guard who is on Lawson. The guard did their job. That falls on the person who didn't box the opposing Center out, lost them on the cut, or didn't contest/block the lob.

    The whole idea of defense on a string is responsibility moves along the string as the ball moves. If you get the ball out of Lawson's hands (he hasn't scored), then the next person in line has to cover.

    General PnR defense operates on a similar concept. It's physically impossible to NOT get screened or picked. That's going to happen multiple times a game. The real key to beating a PnR is the help defender anticipating the play and then moving up to hedge the opposite side of the pick to allow the original guard to regain guard position.

    A good example of this tonight was Dmo. Dmo would actually hedge the opposite side of the Picks. So, Lawson would go over a pick, Lin would fight over/under depending on angle, Dmo would move up to hedge the pick, and most of the time Lawson would either pull out and reset or pass out the ball. Sometimes he beat the hedger, but not always and that's as much as you can hope for a good chunk of the time against a good PG.

    Anyway, just some stuff to think about. It's not whether the PG scores or racks an assist that counts, it's HOW they score or rack an assist. You have to accept contested shots going in. You don't have to accept shots NOT being contested.
     
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  13. willus

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    You can't really stop those assists.. Most of those assists were lobs and the guards don't have eyes on the back of their heads to know where the ball is going. Plus most of those points scored by Lawson were due to Harden not wanting to pick up another foul. Denver's chemistry is a lot better compared to ours and they do have some good plays. Don't worry that's only our 11th game we will get better.
     
  14. archinkent

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    It was the same case with Anderson, but Lin was still blamed.

    Lin and Bev are good 1 on 1 defenders but they can't fight through screens well and it's up to the screener's defender to help out. Scola used to be great at that.
     
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  16. Xfinity

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    What about it? Assist is about finding open man and them making the shot. I don't care how good of a defender you are, you can't defend the person you are guarding and his teammates also. It's ridiculous to ask the PG to stops other PG from racking up assists if the other players can't guard their men or rotate. At the end of the day it's all about team defense instead of individual defense.
     
  17. Gil

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    Who cares? We all know his numbers were inflated due to Hack-a-Howard.
     
  18. KingStevo10

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    We won the game bro Dwight hit 17 free throws! The defense isnt suddenly gonna change over night especially with Omer not even playing.
     
  19. ed_tx

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    Good breakdown and detail. Thanks for taking the time to post it. I agree, our point guards are both pretty good defenders and we should look at the entire play to see why the opposing guard scored on us rather than making generalizations.
     
  20. Xfinity

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    I keep seeing people saying so and so can't fight through screens well, but that's exactly the point why screens are set. You are not supposed to be able to get through screens unless you are a lot faster than the person you are chasing. To expect people to get through screen to defend is unrealistic. Instead the focus should be on how the team can play the screen better.
     

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