I'm curious as to how big his hand size are. From the times I've watched him he loses the ball quite often when he's passed to.
He'll never be a good postup player. Tyson Chandler has a better chance at being a post up player. He might look good in practice, but we talkin' bout practice. Practice? We not talkin' bout the game...we talkin' bout practice. Practice, not the game. Practice? Practice?
So let me see if I've got this... His hands suck so he can't score on lobs, dump-offs or put-backs. He certainly can't score with his back to the basket. He's got no jumper, so he can't score facing up, and he can't hit his free throws, so that's out. Basically, our only hope is that he learns how to direct an offense from the high post a la Chuck Hayes. But wait, we're back to iso-ball, so I guess that's pretty much out too. Man it's a good thing he's such a beast defensively and on the boards.
I think Asik is decent now with the potential to improve to become a scoring threat. You people have been spoiled by the low post attack that we had in the past. No more Hakeem or Yao now. Wake up. We have to develop new talent so please give time to the young guy.
Ran across this looking for any vids with Asik and Carroll Dawson..Whole lotta cheatin goin on! Wonder how much money was involved. At 4:30 mark, Asik faking eye injury to avoid shooting free throws lol! <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/yA47Y1RzJqk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I think this was mentioned in the Rocketscast yesterday that Asik has an extra move that allows the defense to collapse on him in the low post which if he got rid of he could get his shot off a lot cleaner. I haven't watched him enough to verify this, but it makes sense. Of course, he needs to improve his accuracy for this to work, but it's got to help if he's making his move faster. One thing I liked about Aldrich's game was the spin move or fake that allowed him to slip past the defender. If only Asik could learn this, he'd be a better scoring option on the low post.
Asik will never become a competent low post threat. Name one big man with no offensive game to start with become a decent low post threat. Asik should be the white Mutombo, not the white Yao.
Exactly. He should only touch the ball while he's rolling to the basket or while he's grabbing a rebound.
OP, most posters were saying the exact same thing about Patterson this time last year. Yesterday, he was our most reliable scorer....in the post. We have nothing but young guys, have so patience and let them grow on the court.
If the Rox were up over ten and they were playing a crappy team, then maybe, MAYBE, I'd give Asik a chance to PROVE he can score on the block. However, if you are down at home against a good defensive team, and your offense is sucking, you shouldn't be throwing it down to white Mutombo. They did this SEVERAL times yesterday. It was a set play for him. Don't even compare PPatts offensive game to Asik's. And even Mutombo had a way better offensive game than Asik.
Asik somehow has worse touch under the basket than even Boogie Cousins, and Cousins is a man who just finished making just under 43% of his layup attempts last season. I don't dislike the idea of Asik getting garbage points off of offensive rebounds and tip-ins, go nuts big fella. But why you would feed him the ball like he's some sort of post presence is beyond me. It's just not his strength. Asik & Destroy is a rebounder and he's a defender. It ends there! Those are pretty good things to have in a center! No need to make try to make this guy something he's not.
Exactly. Give him a chance when Rox are blowing out a team, not when the Rox need buckets. I can't believe they called plays for him.
I mean, I get what the coaching staff is trying to do. They're trying to get a better read on what Asik can accomplish in the post in a game situation, because it helps inform their understanding of where the Rockets' extra touches and scoring can come from after Harden. It probably even tells a stat nerd like Morey more about the kind of player he would want to trade for to complement Asik, as well. But right now? It's a bad, bad look. A lot of players have come through the league as defensive / rebounding specialists who can't put points on the board. Rodman and Ben Wallace come to mind, and nobody thinks those guys are bad. I guess what I'm saying is, figure out what his skill set is in the post, fine, but even if it doesn't work out, no big deal. Asik is still one of the best defending and rebounding centers in the league, and that counts for a lot.
He only needs to get a litter better at it like a 50% clip. If he is able to do that, the defense will be forced to play honest and double team him every once in a while. He can then pass the ball to the open man.
"In and Out" I feel like I'm the only one seeing that when the ball goes "in and out" its working but none of the coaches are seeing it. Go watch the tapes of the games. The ball goes into the post, doesn't mean the post player has to score but once it starts there good things happen. It goes in, then the guards can cut or the ball swings back out and around. What is currently happening of guards trying to hard to create is not working. Our guards trying so hard to create, and when they miss it creates a running situation for the other team. We have talented forwards that can pass that are not being utilized. Secondly, Delfino cannot sub for Chandler. Delfino has to sub for Harden. Shuffle the Forwards and someone subs for Chandler. Thirdly, we not going to playoffs unless Tony Douglas is out of the rotation.
Currently the problem is once the ball goes into post, for some reason (Asik or whoever) feel they have to score. It is compounded by the guards running off and leaving them by themselves with no outlet. The ball goes inside but it doesn't mean it stays there. Believe or not, they can pass the ball back out. But they not doing it.
