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Are we going to see even more superteams ?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by DMO (DJ remix), May 8, 2017.

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Superteams to become a trend?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. DMO (DJ remix)

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    After most likely outcome Cavs and Dubs going to nba finals, which is obviously not guaranteed yet, but most likely outcome. Are star players going to form even more superteams, as it might be the only way to win the ring, i mean, you ain't going to do **** with a good or great squad, you need multiple stars, all stars and whatnot, obviously the Rockets might be a big winners in this, as our team would and will be one of the best FA destinations for obvious reasons.
     
  2. Downtown Sniper

    Downtown Sniper Contributing Member

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    I think you'll see more star players with the mentality of Lillard (it's either a ring in Portland or he doesn't win one) as opposed to the mentality of KD.

    Of course it only takes a couple of stars to have the KD mentality to ruin it for everyone.
     
  3. kevC

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    There aren't even enough super stars left in the league to combine to create something like the Warriors. They literally have 4 of the top 15 (2 of top 5) players in the league. If you combined the Rockets and the Spurs, it still might match them talent-wise.
     
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    Hayward to Houston confirmed?
     
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  5. DMO (DJ remix)

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    Well, there are so many possibilities, Celtics could trade for both PG and Butler, team of IT, Bradley Butler, PG, Horford and etc would be quite sick as well and that's just an example.
     
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  6. intergalactic

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    KD to the Warriors is due to the salary cap spike, but the root cause of superteams is the global success of the NBA. TV money feeds into higher average salaries and also endorsement money, both of which make players more willing to give up some salary to join a superteam.

    The silver lining is that it's not necessarily true that the same cities will keep having the superteams. Sure, players like living by the beach, but they are either in the offseason or on the road most of the year. I think if the league were to shrink the number of games and increase the length of the offseason, you'd see more superstars willing to go to the non-glamour teams.
     
  7. YOLO

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    i don't consider a team to be a true super team without having guys that are the true superstars in this league on the same roster. like adding a lowry to Utah isn't really a super team or something like Blake to Okc imo. just regular all star caliber players that can help a team be decent/good but not really enough to be considered a super team
     
  8. burnshroom

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    But are they REALLY superteams. Lebron is an All Time Great. Kyrie is an All-Star PG. But they have made KLove into a glorified shooter that can rebound. And the rest are just parts to complete the package.

    In GS, KD is just shy of an All Time Great, and we all know Steph can shoot. Once again after that you have players that fill roles. Mind you in GS the roles they fill, though specialized, mesh well.

    The overall thing is, in basketball there will forever only be ONE ball. And "Superteams" can be beat. But it would take a disciplined team that would have to play perfect. That is where Cleveland and GS differ... If Lebron has an off night, Kyrie can step up. If Kyrie and Lebron are off, Kevin Love is not going to win it for you. The same in GS, but probably to a lesser degree because of how that team is built. If KD is off Steph can win it for you or maybe Klay. But their team build can actually get them through even when Steph and Klay are off. But KD (maybe he is an ATG) just seems so smooth that you wonder if he is EVER off.

    Meh... what was I saying?
     
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  9. tmacfor35

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    Does Hayward put us in Elite Category?

    It sure would be interesting to run a team out there with Hayward or Ariza at the four with Anderson at the 5.
     
  10. samtaylor

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    It's the cycle of the NBA...LeBron perfected it, and now Durant took it to even a higher level.

    The "small" market teams are almost always at the top of the Draft, draft the best players, have them play/develop for 6-9 years, and then once in their prime, these players just want to chase rings, or the owners/GMs are worried that they will leave in free agency, so they are traded.

    Look at all these examples just since 2003:

    2003
    • LeBron - plays for Cleveland for 7 years, doesn't win, joins super team in Miami
    • Carmelo - plays for Denver for 8 years, doesn't win, GM trades him to NYK while the Knicks tried to build a super team with Amare
    • Chris Bosh - plays for Toronto for 7 years, doesn't win, joins super team in Miami
    2004
    • Dwight - plays for Orlando for 8 years, gets them to a Finals so they hold on to him longer than they should, GM trades him to LAL while the Lakers tried to build a super team with Nash and Kobe
    2005
    • Chris Paul - plays for New Orleans for 6 years, doesn't win, GM trades him to LAC while the Clippers tried to build a super team with Blake and DeAndre
    2006
    • LaMarcus Aldridge - plays for Portland for 9 years, doesn't win, joins super team in San Antonio
    2007
    • Kevin Durant - plays for SEA/OKC for 9 years, doesn't win, joins super team in GSW
    2008
    • Kevin Love - plays for Minnesota for 6 years, doesn't win, GM trades him to CLE while Cavs build a super team with LeBron and Kyrie

    The clock will soon strike midnight on Paul George/Pacers, Blake/Clippers, and probably at some point Westbrook/Thunder

    Over the past 14 years, only 3 teams have built totally around the draft and won, or were close:
    • Spurs (Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, and Leonard)
    • Warriors (Curry, Green, Klay, Barnes)
    • Thunder (Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka)
     
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  11. PyroTex

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    Yes. Most basketball players dream of being in the NBA. Most NBA players want to win the ring. I feel more superstars will go with the superteam trend. It would be better for the NBA if this wasn't so. But I don't see it right now, many things would have to change.
     
  12. Exiled

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    Not always the case , J.Lin went to Brooklyn
     
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    This actually supports that players do want Superteams... here you just pawned off an also-ran player to free up caps space for Blake/George/Westbrook.
     
  14. apollo33

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    depends on if player has earned enough in his life time to take pay cuts and spotlight reduction in order to win a chip

    It's hard to give up millions even when you are a multi millionaire
     
  15. Brown Lost It

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    no, there will be two super teams from now on. in five years it will be:

    curry
    klay
    george
    durant
    griffin

    irving
    Westbrook
    lebron
    love
    cousins

    in reality, yes and I think there will be one more super team formed in the next year or two, possibly in Boston even though if guys were smart they would join in Philly
     
  16. Easy

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    1992
    • Shaquille O'Neal - plays for Orlando for 4 years, doesn't win and loses super team teammate Penny Hardaway to injuries, joins Kobe to form super team.
    1996
    • Kevin Garnett - plays for Minnesota for 12 years, doesn't win, traded to Boston to form a super team with Pierce and Allen.
     
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  17. Rocket River

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    I think more teams will look at the Rocket Model.
    A Superstar with Above Average every where else
    or
    Specialist

    Rocket River
     
  18. SeekingAlpha

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    The Boston big 3 is the one where really kicked things off to where we are now.

    Even after Shaq joined Kobe and they won three in a row, you had guys like Gary Payton and Malone try to latch on and claim they were the best team in history. Then the 2004 Pistons shut them down and you had non-superteams like the Spurs, Miami, Kobe Lakers win a few titles.

    When KG, Pierce, and Allen joined forces, they just constantly thwarted LeBron in the regular season and playoffs and he realized having Hughes and Jamison wouldn't be enough. That led to the Miami Big 3, the failed Brooklyn Superteam, the failed Lakers Superteam version 2.0, and now Golden State (Prior to KD joining I wouldn't have called GS a superteam per se since Steph, Klay, Dray, and Harrison Barnes were all drafted by GS).

    I sometimes wonder how the NBA would have looked if KG and Allen never made it to Boston.
     
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  19. JuanValdez

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    I think it's a trend that's coming on in a big way. In 5 years, I expect we'll have 30 superteams.
     
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  20. LabMouse

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    Yes, with the help of the fans who are willing to pay big bills to watch the TV games, the teams would have enough money to form another one or two superteams. Boston should have assets to build a superteam soon, no more in the West.
     

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