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AP poll: A slight majority of Americans are now expressing negative view of blacks

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by BornTexan, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. FranchiseBlade

    FranchiseBlade Contributing Member
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    The point that you claim hasn't been shown by anything you've posted. In fact quite the opposite is true. Also calling 400 years of slavery and oppression a lame excuse is also quite telling.

    You've exposed quite a bit about your line of reasoning and thought process. Thanks for getting that out in the open.
     
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    Texas is behind the times. Always has been, always will be.

    Nice thread title ignoramus... I hope "blacks" don't read this thread.
     
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    Asians aren't racist.



    ...but if there was a test on it, Asians would pass with flying colors.
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

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    Black culture was developed as a coping mechanism for being physically, socially and legally quarantined from even the most basic avenues towards success or prosperity in American society: things like literacy, property ownership and basic due process. Blacks were also continually marginalized as new immigrant groups married and bred into the majority culture, advanced economically through the same channels that, even in their most inclusive form, were singularly shut out to blacks, and discriminated against blacks in their own right. When our educational, industrial/corporate and residential infrastructure was being created mid-century to build the modern middle class, blacks were once again explicitly excluded as a matter of custom and law.
     
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    Holy ****. If this isn't ban worthy, what is? You are insane...
     
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    WOW!



    WOW!



    :grin: This is unreal... I'm not even mad. Is this real life? WOW!
     
  7. Dairy Ashford

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    I'm black and I've called individuals and entire groups racist before here without any recourse; probably in part because the respondents knew it was always topical, as was Born Texan's comment. The mods would be completely justified in considering banning racial topics as a whole.
     
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    Do you understand what play the percentages mean? Because even without tackling what you say here, you do realize that the majority of blacks aren't criminals, right?

    So if you play the percentages you would always assume anyone you see that's black is not a criminal. You'd be correct more often than you wouldn't.
     
  9. Dairy Ashford

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    It could be, but there's no reason to assume Jorge isn't completely accepting of blacks in his work and social settings; ultimately that's probably the most "we" can reasonably ask for.
     
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    Yes, but of course many people's decision making would be to discriminate against a group where there is only a 10% chance of that group member doing harm to you. You don't want to be correct more often than not -- you want to be correct all the time; and as such you don't take chances. This is how the human mind processes information and makes subconscious decisions. I'm not feeling good if my parachute opens 'more often than not'. Same principle.
     
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    We aren't racist? Seriously? Heck, Asians are pretty racist towards each other (especially since the very concept of "Asian" is really dumb, I digress). I've been openly taunted by Chinese and Vietnamese, and I'm not going to pretend I just ignore them.


    One thing I've also heard (but actually haven't seen for myself) is the Asian attitude towards Jews. A lot of Koreans and Chinese among others actually believe that the Protocols of the Elder of Zion is in fact correct.... but the conclusion they draw is "Man, those Jews are awesome! They've really got their stuff together."
     
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    I go well beyond that low bar of merely accepting blacks in work and social settings -- of course I do that. I also give generously to charities that support blacks, and have done a substantial amount of economic development work internationally in predominantly black countries. I have also paid homage to global black leaders and thought leaders, including Mandela and Hector Pieterson, as I have documented many times here.
     
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    If you want to be right all the time, then you aren't playing the percentages. That's the point. You wait until you have specific facts on individuals before making a determination, and/or judgement. You don't play the percentage based on skin color if you want to be right all the time.

    If you are playing the percentages you still play the one that gives you the best chance of being correct. So that would be to guess that every black person a white would encounter is not a criminal. To guess that a black person encountered is a criminal is actually playing against the percentages.

    Or you could not make any judgement at all until you had more definitive and relevant facts. That's the only way to be correct all of the time.
     
  14. CometsWin

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    This is the big game conservatives like to play. They like to use socioeconomics when it comes to stopping affirmative action in admissions but we'll flip flop to race when it comes to crime. You guys want to selectively play the race card when it suits you and then ignore race when it doesn't suit you.

    The fact is however that 84% of white people are killed by other white people. No doubt you're quite afraid every time you encounter the whites.

    http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf
     
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    Racism is not a conservative or liberal idea. It produces no good, and it can never be a tool to achieve honorable goals. It is ignorance pure and simple.

    That being said, it is unfortunate that so many of those stereotyped actually perpetuate stereotypes. Many people are lazy, and small-minded, and use stereotypes to make judgments. Those stereotyped emulate poor role models and independent thought seems to be too much to ask. I wish I knew a cure all for ignorance. Everyone shares the responsibility to eliminate racism, and that is precisely the problem.
     
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    Why did it take 200 years for a non white male to be elected President? Clearly the white male majority were plainly racially driven and would not support a minority candidate.
     
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    Sounds like your typical Republican post 2000...
     
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    It is mighty tempting to say that you weren't born Texan, but rather born stupid, with all due respect, but that would be impolite. As has been pointed out, Blacks tend to vote Democratic in huge numbers, and have, I'm guessing, since before you were born, wherever it is that you were born. Not that it matters to me. It is difficult to believe that you could start this thread without knowing that.

    In my opinion, there are several examples of why racism aimed at Blacks may have increased the last few years in the United States, and some of them are posting in threads in D&D, and starting them.
     
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    . . . . .

    Rocket River
    :eek:
     
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    Education and success in one area does not mean someone can't be ignorant in another area. Geez, do I really have to explain this? I mean, are we living in the 21st century???

    Sigh.... OK, people fear what they don't know. Many groups of individuals have aspects to their culture that others aren't aware of or misinterpret- thus, ignorance. A person sees a group of Muslims kneel down and pray in the street at 5 PM, and he thinks they are weird. A person sees a group of Muslims rioting in the streets, burning an American flag, and he believes that all Muslims hate America. A person says Hi to a Chinese neighbor for the first time, the neighbor barely acknowledges him, and he thinks Chinese people are rude. A person gets annoyed with a Hispanic person who can't speak English but does not have the same reaction if the person is of European descent.

    These are all examples from people I know. And I imagine that there's more where that came from. It's all based on ignorance. Now, if a society has a problem with, let's say, people wearing baggy pants that expose their underwear, and they ban that, and many black people happen to wear their pants like that, I personally don't feel that is racism- it's a behavior that will not be tolerated. But wanting to ban an Islamic cultural center 6 blocks from the Ground Zero site when there's already a mosque 4 blocks away? Racism.
     

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