Sacramento trades: PF Lawrence Funderburke (2.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 8.5 minutes) C Vlade Divac (9.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 3.4 apg in 29.8 minutes) Sacramento receives: C Arvydas Sabonis (6.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 15.5 minutes) SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.7 minutes) Change in team outlook: +2.5 ppg, -2.4 rpg, and -0.8 apg. Portland trades: SF Ruben Patterson (8.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.3 apg in 21.2 minutes) C Arvydas Sabonis (6.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 15.5 minutes) Portland receives: PF Lawrence Funderburke (2.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 27 games) C Kelvin Cato (4.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 73 games) Change in team outlook: -7.2 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and -2.5 apg. Houston trades: C Kelvin Cato (4.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 17.1 minutes) SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.7 minutes) Houston receives: C Vlade Divac (9.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 3.4 apg in 80 games) SF Ruben Patterson (8.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.3 apg in 78 games) Change in team outlook: +4.7 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and +3.3 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Portland gets Cato to replace Sabonis and the expiring deal of funderburke. They also get to unload Patterson. Sac gets the immediate cap relief this year and rice's relief next year for the relief of divac and funderburke next year. Houston gets a SF with issues and Divac who has an expiring deal. He would teach Yao a few moves. Only snag is probably Sac, but maybe they can be sweetened with some draft choices.
Do you know what it's like to fall in the mud and get kicked... in the head... with and iron boot! Of course you don't, no one does, it never happens, it's a dumb question, skip it.
And that cap relief this year gets them who to add to Brad Miller to throw at Shaq at his new friends? If the Kings would have ever entertained this idea (which I doubt), it went packing along with Scot Pollard. The Kings' window of opportunity is closing slowly and they want/need Vlade to mentor Miller. And they want to win now...they were an ill advised tip to Horry and a Webber injury from being "there". No way the give up Vlade for nothing especially after they've cleared Keon and Hedo for nothing.
"I guess MIT doesn't teach logic..." Or you dont realize how much the luxury tax will cost the kings this year.
...and what makes you think the Maloofs are trying that hard to avoid the luxury tax? In case you haven't heard, they're multi-billionaires... If Divac's and Funderburke's contracts both expire after next season, then what exactly is the point of getting an immobile small forward who's contract also expires after next season? Trading away a top five center doesn't help them win an NBA title, which they still have an excellent shot at. You also failed to explain in your OTHER r****ded trade thread exactly why Portland would want Cato back...
Kings' cost-cutting tune is music to Jazz ears SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (AFP) - Sacramento sent forward Keon Clark to Utah in a salary-dumping move that will help the Jazz reach the National Basketball Association team salary minimum. The Kings, who cut five million dollars from their salary as they try to avoid the NBA's salary cap luxury tax line, also sent a second-round future draft pick and received two in return from the Jazz....
Well, trading a backup power forward without having to take on any additional salary is one thing, but trading the best passing center in the league and the hub of the offense is another
Its pretty simple. Portland needs a center especially if they want to compete in the west. Cato is a defensive center which counters the loss of Sabonis. Dale Davis will not cut it at center in the West. Losing Sabonis is huge because because he was their only true center. The kings are trying to shave luxury tax money. If you wuld have looked at the numbers they in effect shave money now and later because they get rice. They end up shaving the same amount of money off next years cap. They lose divac for this year to shave off his salary and avoid the luxury tax. They are trading away divac because they have miller. Divac would be a luxury to keep and Miller would take most of his minutes anyway. Why not save 20 million dollars? I dont care how rich you are 20 million is 20 million. Is that logical enough for you? With the money they save they can get a very cheap backup center to hack shaq. Think before you reply next time, and I will try to explain things nice and easy for you to follow along. A- Apple, B- Bannana....You follow
In case you haven't heard, there's more to the NBA than shaving dollars and pinching pennies, it's about winning. Vlade has been the heart of that team for the past five years. He won't be a "luxury" as you put it. He's the best passing center in the NBA, and he draws defenders out who have to guard his jump shot, and what he can teach to Miller in even one season will be invaluable. Plus, he provides valuable depth at center. A cheap center to "hack shaq" won't work...well, at least it didn't work when the Lakers were busy winning three titles. I'd bet that the Maloofs would trade $20,000,000 for an NBA title. A - Apple, B - Banana, C - Carrot, D - Dumbass...
Your trade was accepted by RealGM because all salaries matched--no one can go up or down by more than a 15% difference. No one gained significant reduction in salary. There is no "immediate cap relief" in that trade. Immediate cap relief would have to involve a team currently below the cap to spend right now, or a team with a signification trade exception to allow the Kings to send out more salary than they receive. Neither Houston nor Portland have such an exception, so all salaries must match. Let me explain, your trade means they lose Divac's/Funderburkes salary, but gain Rice's and Sabonis. Thus, they are moving ~$14m in salary out, but are taking >$16m back. You just increased their luxury tax for the upcoming year. As for the following year, both Divac and Funderburke's salary expires at the same time Rice's does, but Sabonis actually continues for another year. You are confused if you think this lowers the King's salary more than status quo does. it's fine to suggest trades, but don't make them out to be salary savers when they aren't.
1) The Kings have already completed their "shaving" when they shipped out Keon and Hedo. 2) Part of the reason the Kings shipped out Keon was to have enough money to re-sign Jim Jackson. Imbedded in this is A) They don't need a $9+m backup for Jackson who is backing up Peja. and B) If the Kings ship out Vlade and Funderburke and take back in Rice the net savings under the CBA is in round numbers ZERO. How does taking in Glen Rice shave money from any possible LTax hit for this season? (OK - just saw hp set this one straight). 3) The LTax is a function of BRI. The reason there was an LTax in the 2002-03 season was an anomaly in the new broadcasting contract between the league and ESPN/ABC which deliberately started low in the first season. That contract has a bigger spike for the 2003-04 season. Hence, low probability of an LTax for 2003-04 and 2004-05.
Sabonis contract comes off this week August 15th, it isnt guaranteed, so they do get cap relief this season. The trade was accepted by real gm. Houston trades: C Kelvin Cato (4.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 17.1 minutes) SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.7 minutes) Houston receives: SF Ruben Patterson (8.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.3 apg in 21.2 minutes) C Vlade Divac (9.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 3.4 apg in 29.8 minutes) Change in team outlook: +4.7 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and +3.3 apg. Portland trades: SF Ruben Patterson (8.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.3 apg in 21.2 minutes) C Arvydas Sabonis (6.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 15.5 minutes) Portland receives: C Kelvin Cato (4.5 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 73 games) PF Lawrence Funderburke (2.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 27 games) Change in team outlook: -7.2 ppg, +0.2 rpg, and -2.5 apg. Sacramento trades: PF Lawrence Funderburke (2.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 8.5 minutes) C Vlade Divac (9.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 3.4 apg in 29.8 minutes) Sacramento receives: SF Glen Rice (9.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 1.1 apg in 62 games) C Arvydas Sabonis (6.1 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 1.8 apg in 78 games) Change in team outlook: +2.5 ppg, -2.4 rpg, and -0.8 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Due to Houston, Portland, and Sacramento being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Houston, Portland, and Sacramento had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You have been assigned Trade ID number 1192419 Check out the trade ID, number do your research actually read the espn article. I said Sac might not do this so you could sweeten it with picks. But the trade works, Money does matter. Its a give and take, i know holding two thoughts in your head might be hard, and reading even tougher, and i guess doing the trade checker on realgm is above your ability, but the fact is that Miller replaces Divac. Divac is worth a dollar amount, you can argue that he is worth more than that dollar amount, but i dont think he is. Here is the quote from the article Sabonis was scheduled to be in Portland for a team physical this week but instead stayed home. The Blazers and Sabonis had until Friday to sign a deal that would guarantee his salary for next season. The Trail Blazers can still trade his rights before then, giving the team that acquires him some salary-cap relief. Sabonis was set to make $7 million in the second year of a three-year deal he signed with the Trail Blazers before last season. His contract isnt guaranteed meaning it will come of this year. Now if your gonna argue that it still isnt a good deal, the do so, but get the facts correct.
if you think the RealGm trade checker is the end-all be-all of trade logic checking... you indeed dont deserve to be at MIT....more like NIT.
Whats your problem with my school? Is it more a reflection on some kinda inferiority complex you must have?
It has nothing to do with were you go/went to school. It has to with the fact that for some unknown reason you lack the logic or are too bullheaded to understand that: 1) The Kings are not worried about a 2003-04 LTax that has an almost nill probability of being invoked because there will be more revenue from the braodcasting contract and 2) That the Kings are not (after already shorteneing their rotation by giving away Keon and Hedo) going to give away Vlade Divac (one of the 4 best centers in the NBA) when they are so close to the championship and 3) BOTH Glen Rice's and Vlade Divac's contract expire next summer and Vlade makes ~$3m more than Rice and 4) The Kings have Vlade's Birds Rights and he probably wants to finish his career as a King and will probably sign for a reasonable amount. And he's probably better than any C than could get in what remains of this years FA group or next years FA's. I didn't pick this up at the University of Houston...I had to learn it on my own.
