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Anderson is killing us...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets4lf, Oct 23, 2017.

  1. daywalker02

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    Fan club? More like a small group of enthusiasts.
     
  2. omgTHEpotential

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    Ryan Anderson has a career-high TS% this season, at 61%.
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    more like ironists who enjoy getting under the skin of people like @roslolian
     
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  4. daywalker02

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    Season going to be long, one or two stats will be above average or good.
     
  5. omgTHEpotential

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    Would you say Anderson is a net negative this year?
     
  6. DreamShook

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    what the hell?

    what the hell?

    what the hell?

    You do what you're paid to do. Some skills are more coveted by different employers than others. Morey overpaid Anderson, but he paid him to do pretty much what he is doing now.

    There is no Anderson fan club.
     
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    optimists.
     
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    He is playing better this season and I can see his effort level has gone up. I also don’t blame any NBA player for signing a huge contract when it is offered. However, I don’t see how you can separate the player from the contract when they are underperforming it ( I suspect he will always underperform that contract because of the dollar amount and the length). Also, his contract makes him essentially untradable no matter how well he plays. He has value, but at that price tag it’s negative value.

    Therefore, unless he improves to a star level, his value will never be positive overall because of his contract. His floor spacing is valuable but not at the price of a player with multiple all star appearances. I also don’t think he is the right kind of player to play extended minutes against Golden State and win in a seven game series. That wouldn’t be a bad thing if we didn’t have 20% of the cap tied up into him. He struggles against athletic wing players who have the ability to close out hard to his shot under control as he’s no real driving threat or post up threat.

    So as a player does Anderson kill us? No, when he’s overmatched he can be pulled. Where he kills us the most is in cap space. He is essentially untradable, and as he continues to age his weakness will only increase. He’s a specialist player who was paid like an all star. That’s on Morey, but it made him an anchor that drags the team down as despite his skills we’d have to play teams to take him. Not even the Knicks wanted him and look at the contract Hardaway got.....that says something. I have a hard time seeing this team as true title contenders as long as he’s on the books under that contract. I think they feel the same way.
     
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  9. heypartner

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    fwiw: holy mackerel on the +29 Net, too.



    If this keeps up, I.D.I.O.T.
     
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    This thread should be page 10 considering how well he has played the last 2 games.
    Has been great defensively and shots have been falling too.
    If he keeps that up, consider me in on the Anderson (fan)Optimist-club @Dream Shook
     
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    Exceptional post. Those that aren't seeing Anderson's much improved defense aren't paying attention. He's been a help on defense when no other big man was successful. He's getting hustle plays that the old Anderson didn't even try to make. He's boarding better than we could have expected, he's getting opportunistic blocks, he's playing great team defense.

    And his shooting lately is finally the shooting which led to Rockets coveting him for so long. He's been the best surprise "most improved player" for us while Gordon and Capela have also made great leaps. But it's Anderson's improved play that's the big surprise. We could have expected it from Gordon and Capela.

    Well done.
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    Revisionist history. In the year Anderson got his high contract EVERY player was being overpaid and the expectation was that contracts were only going to go up in the future. That didn't happen but at the time of his signing it was not a bad contract by any metric and I don't recall people complaining about it then. This is a hindsight is 20/20 thing. The next year, when salaries went down instead of up as expected, it became a bloated contract. It wasn't one when the signing took place.

    Some folks need to be a little more up on their history before they make such blanket statements.
     
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  13. amaru

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    When did I ever say his contract was an anchor at any point last season? Link the post when you find where I said Anderson was anchor. He was overpaid to be sure, but that was the artificially inflated market. I said it became a huge anchor this off season and cost us Melo. That contract became an anchor quick, fast and in a hurry.

    Reading comprehension is key.
     
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  14. DreamShook

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    I really don't want my on-line identity to be that of an Anderson sympathizer...

    @DreamShook not @Dream Shook by the way. no space.
     
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    Want some stats to go with that comment

    Rockets see improvement in defensive rebounding
    By Jonathan Feigen, Houston Chronicle Published 12:28 pm, Monday, October 30, 2017

    The Rockets have improved markedly in the first weeks of the season in one of the areas that had been among their top priorities, ranking third in the NBA in defensive rebounding percentage.

    The Rockets have allowed just 9.7 second-chance points per game, the fourth-fewest in the NBA. Last season, when their defensive rebounding percentage ranked 21st, they gave up 13.8 second-chance points per game, more than all but four teams.

    “Adding Luc and P.J., some big bodies and play hard and block off and go to the glass helps a lot,” said forward Ryan Anderson, who is averaging 6.1 rebounds per game to rank second on the Rockets (excluding Chris Paul’s one game.) “I think that’s something we wanted to improve on, our defensive rebounding.
    “There’s certain elements we’re doing really well now. Our halfcourt defense is really good. There’s certain things we need to work on and grow with.”​
     
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  16. Rockets4Life13

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    That ship has sailed :D:D
    But if he keeps it up you have been first to the bandwagon. It's like Warriors fans since 09' can call themselves "real" Warriors fans.

    Noted (Y)
     
  17. DreamShook

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    -12 today for those Ryan Anderson +/- fans out there. Who were the geniuses who said Anderson makes everyone better because his +/- are amazing again?
     
  19. Madano

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    Okay i'm out of the loop, what does I.D.I.O.T. stand for?
     
  20. Cstyle42

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    Rockets aint getting to the nba finals starting Ariza and Anderson.
     

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