And this is part of why Jimy Williams terrifies me as a manager...

I smell a Biggio/Bagwell conspiracy. The rulers of the clubhouse strike again!

CJ's site is definitely cool. I remember when they had that big brawl in Detroit with Chicago I think? CJ was talking all about it on the site, it was cool.

 

Uh, the entire season counts. Especially when the other park was less of a hitter's park.

Not necessarily. Who's to say that he was totally motivated playing on a team that had no chance at contending? I care about how he played with the Astros, and I think that should be what we evaluate his performance on.

which is more likely?

A. A pitcher who has always sucked and has no good pitches will miraculously turn his career around
or
B. A young pitcher oozing will talent will break out.

I still don't consider a 5.09 ERA, and 4.64 after the All-Star break, as "sucking". It's average, and he pitched very well in the playoffs. Give him a few starts. If he does well, then you have a good pitcher. If he sucks as you claim he will, then make Redding the starter anyway. How much can you lose in 3 or 4 starts?

 

Personally, I'd like to see Dotel starting again. There's no reason to keep him in the pen if he's that good. If he starts then most of our starters can go 7 innings. Anybody can go one inning and get us to Wagner. I say pitch these starters until they drop. This isn't a wussy sport. I hope Williams makes these guys take pride in going 9. If the unconditioned -hippy pitchers of the 70's could go the distance, then the pitchers of the 90's should be going the distance too.

 

A setup man (who could also be a closer) is more important than a 5th starter who won't be able to pitch more htan 6 innings.

Dotel finally found his niche as a dominant setup guy, and now you want to move him back to starter?

The 8th inning is every bit as important as the 9th inning.

I basically think the Astros use 2 closers to win the games in the late innings.

WHo the hell would replace Dotel as the setup guy?

 

Mike Williams

 

Williams resigned with the Pirates. They pulled a smooth move over on us I guess. McKnight and Williams for nothing.

 

If it ain't broke don't fix it...

Again, who replaces Dotel as the setup guy? Our record last year was incredible when leading after 7 innings.

When Dotel was a starter, he was no better than Mlicki.

Moreover, his arm will need to get redjusted to pitching 90-100 pitches every 5 games.

 

I have to seriously disagree with you here haven.

Miliki's stats with the Astros last year:

7-3 5.09 ERA 33 BB 49 SO

To me he was one of our more consistent pitchers during the second half of the season when we needed help from all of the injuries we had. If he pitches well during spring training, I feel confident that he can provide us a solid 5 slot in the starting rotation.

 

Damn!!! I better get updated before the fantasy draft

 

I'm sorry, I missed the change in rules where record means less than statistics...when did that happen? Oh wait, it hasn't. I'll take good won-loss record/bad era over bad won-loss record/good era any day of the week.

 

I just read the entire thread after I posted it..... my bad. I think you make some good points, but like The Cat said, give him a month or two to prove he is a legit starter, then send him to the pen if he starts sucking.

Bottom line is: Give him a shot at the very least.

 

Did someone say Nolan Ryan?

 

good won-loss record/bad era rarely happens, ditto for the other way around.

I would not put faith in Mlicki being as fortunate this year. Especially when his best pitch is a 90mph fastball . . . thats just icky.

 

Dave Malekie rules. I saw him pitch last year, and he ****ing blew the opposition. He has a fastball in the 100 and teens, and he paints the corners like Tom Sawyer on a fence. Sick, just sick. I almost dropped a Cleveland Steamer when I saw him, right then and there.