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All this Jeremy Lin talk remind me of a younger Kyle Lowry once upon a time

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by meh, Nov 23, 2012.

  1. meh

    meh Contributing Member

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    Wouldnt Dragic being older and more experience be a negative? Why are you so happy that Dragic has a track record of mediocrity and career backupness but Lin does not? If anything, the Rockets takes unpolished PGs and turn them into gems. Well, they also then ship them out, but that may be next years discussion.
     
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    We do have a track record of turning unpolished PGs and turn them into gems. But those unpolished PGs didn't come here with a big contract and high expectations. And we have seen the last guy Morey gave a big contract too based on "potential" and a "good year." (Ariza).
     
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    No. This is the same type of logic that causes many gm's to perform poorly come draft time because they draft guys who did well for a bit in the NCAA tournament but can never reclaim that glory.

    We're not talking small glimpses of potential here. We're talking about a guy, in Dragic, who has played in the NBA for a while and proven that he can do it all consistently.

    Age is not a negative in this instance because Dragic is only two years older than Lin. But the key point is that Dragic is tons more experienced.

    Dragic was backing up Steve Nash so being a "back up" is little knock to him. As far as him being mediocre. Well, that's a ridiculous point and you know better. He's easily above average and his play in the latter half of last year and thus far this year proves that.

    Next point is you are right. But the Rockets do not magically turn point guards into gems. The Rockets are really good at trading for and giving underutilized players an opportunity to flourish. Dragic always had the talent. Sadly for him he was just stuck behind the best PG of the last decade.

    On the flip side of the above, the Rockets are not so good at selecting players who average more than 20+ mins the previous season to give free agent contracts to.

    List of evidence:
    Trevor Ariza
    Brad Miller
    Jeremy Lin
     
  4. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Lin isn't half as tough as Lowry.
     
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    The guy just had a knee surgery. How tough should he be?
     
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    They didn't come with big contracts because we had no money. And what was wrong with Ariza? He still had enough trade value after one season for us to get Lee, and that contract was much more toxic. If Lin gets a bunch of empty stats but the Rockets don't like him going forward, they'd just dump him. When a player goes in the wrong direction, nobody ship them out faster than Morey. He's not an asset manager for nothing.
     
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    Other players have had knee surgeries and come back and perform just the way they used to.

    Let me give you an example of football where it would be hard to come back and perform at an elite rb way again. Adrian Peterson. BTW its much harder to come back and perform like he has in NFL than in the NBA.

    People are using his injury as a way to protect their feelings that he may still be "good". Just get used to the fact that he is below average. I'll be glad if he makes his way to being average. Also we are talking about a position in the NBA (PG) which has the most best players out. Its hard to call a pg good if there are so many great and other good pg in the league. And I think he has had enough time to heal and rehab. IF he wasn't ready then they should have never let him play cause his injury could get worse.
     
  8. khfxxx

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    This article was written right before the Knicks game. His trainer explained why Lin didn't perform well recently. He also said Lin's knee wasn't "right" in the offseason.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/29047/trainer-lin-not-adjusted-to-new-system

    Lin also sat out most of the practice today. He said he was working on some explosive stuff to try to get his finishing ability back.

    It's just 13 games. Why it is so hard to give the kid some time to work his way back? Are you contending or something? Smh
     
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    Guess who is being discussed here? No, not Jeremy Lin.

    Deron Williams. (previous coach = Sloan)

    And no, for those who apparently need this clarified every time someone makes an analogy, I'm not comparing Lin and DWill as players.

    It's just that Lin's situation is enough to test any player, but with Lin, also add inexperience and the inexperience of his teammates.

    I don't think we will see what kind of player he is for another couple of years. I would be really surprised, to be frank, if he became a top 10 pg -- but I'm not ready to declare him a bust after 13 games.
     
  10. khfxxx

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    How long did it take D-Will to overcome those things? Just curious...
     
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    The poster was discussing Deron's time on the Nets... he's currently still struggling.

    (His stats are better than Jeremy's, of course, but then he's a top 10 PG, some would say top 5.)
     
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    What is tough? How do you quantify toughness?
     
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    Everybody should start praying that Lin does better than Lowry today...
     
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    tomorrow* pray today
     
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    Conditioning bro . Muscles . The knee is ok but the he needs build up his muscles for explosvie power which we saw last season. Its coming back.
     
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    Anyway no point auguring about this. You might right i might be right. Just let him play and we will see.
     
  19. GTRockets

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    U cant use AP as an example. He has been known as a physical monsters ablle to rebound from injuries.
     

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