AGW: The Fiddling with Temperature Data is the Biggest Science Scandal Ever

Climategate 2: Electric Bugaloo

Good ol Telegraph breaking news that silently gets redacted months later when they're proven to be wrong.

 

Are you promiscuous or faithful? Measure your index finger to find out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11391322/Are-you-promiscuous-or-faithful-Measure-your-index-finger-to-find-out.html

 

Your article was already debunked: <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qRFz8merXEA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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Here is an idea... Watch the video, and break down each assertion made in the video and explain why you find this video truly "unbelievable". Otherwise, I'm just going to assume that you are incapable of doing so.

 

It's really not about me. You made a thread to convince your assertions to those who have a differing opinion than yours. NO ONE that you are targeting here is going to take you seriously until you break down the video and explain why it's not credible and accurate.

Of course, I'm assuming this thread wasn't intended to be an echo chamber/circle jerk thread. If that's your intention, then by all means ignore my counter-evidence and continue on your merry way and I will not continue posting on this thread again as it will be pointless.

 

Don't just tease us. What were your results?

 

So you expect us to just accept what you put forward at face value and become petulant when someone challenges your evidence.

I'm willing to hear the evidence that scientists are cooking the books but the counter evidence is also compelling. You don't seem willing to engage that evidence other than to fall back on your original assertion. Just restating your original point isn't a counter argument neither is yawning about it.

 

Congrats Mojo - you're in!

Spoiler

 

Indeed, nothing to see in this thread.

 

Yes a scandal that no legitimate new source in the world is picking up outside of the blogs and outlets owned by the most right wing of right wingers.

This poop campaign of yours is sad and pathetic. You are spreading ignorance at the expense of the future. You really should be ashamed of yourself.

Disgusting.

 

This thread is an interesting little case-study of cognitive dissonance for me. I see the headline, which would be a bit of a shocker. I see the OP, and I know his predilections. I do a quick google news search to see if anyone else is talking about it, and no one is. And I quickly conclude that (until perhaps it blows up into a big story if it ever does) this is bs much ado about nothing. Probably there's a very sensible explanation for why scientists have done whatever's they've done and someone had decided to misconstrue it and assign malicious intent. Or, maybe its a disagreement in the scientific community over methods that someone thought they should fight out in mainstream newspapers. In any case, don't see why it should concern me.

Now, it could be cognitive dissonance at work here, and I'm applying a confirmation bias of discounting information that contradicts my beliefs. Or, maybe this is Mojo's confirmation bias, grabbing onto whatever story confirms his preferred narrative that climate change doesn't exist and refusing to discuss whatever counter-evidence there was (which I didn't bother to watch myself either). Maybe I just saved myself a whole bunch of time by ignoring contradictory information because of my unvetted suspicion that it's bs -- which I then wasted by talking about why I did it.

 

The entire AGW global warming movement is built on lies, fudged data, intimidation and mockery of non-supporters, suppression of dissent, and political pressure. At this point, with so many admissions of deceit, how can anyone suggest that this movement stands on its own scientific merits? This is the opposite of science. Science should be independent of political and financial motivations -- free to let the clean (not corrupted) data guide us to informed conclusions. What we have here is manipulated data, propaganda, and political pressure driving conclusions, and telling the rest of us what to think. Nevermind that their forecasting models have been wrong. Nevermind that the costs of their recommendations far outweigh any benefits. This has morphed into a bad religion. How many data points and years of contradictory evidence will it take to reverse coursed on this failed initiative? It's long overdue. Hundreds of millions of people live in energy poverty and we are depriving them of access to electricity because of shameful political power grabs and embarrassingly wrong and corrupt scientific studies. Shame.

 

or, you could be wrong in your opinion about the scientific evidence and the vast conspiracy it would take to promote what your saying.

You might even be have a paranoid personality disorder. You wouldn't even it know without an outside observer's scientific opinion.
You'd be just living along just thinking there is vast conspiracy to deprive poor people of electricity when all along, you were really just nuts.

 

Christopher Booker at it again.

He also believes that abestos is safe, cigarettes are hunky dory and evolution is a sham.

Hey I guess he doesn't believe in reptilian overlords so he isn't THAT bad.

 

So the video debunks your claim, and you maintain that the video is wrong but are unwilling to state any way, shape, form, or evidence to back your claim.

That doesn't look good for your side of the argument.