1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

After Kobe and DWade, who is the next best SG in the NBA?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jopatmc, Mar 24, 2012.

Tags:
?

After Kobe and DWade, who is the next best SG in the NBA?

  1. James Harden

    83 vote(s)
    31.0%
  2. Tyreke Evans

    5 vote(s)
    1.9%
  3. Eric Gordon

    11 vote(s)
    4.1%
  4. Manu Ginobilli

    90 vote(s)
    33.6%
  5. Monta Ellis

    37 vote(s)
    13.8%
  6. Joe Johnson

    28 vote(s)
    10.4%
  7. Demar Derozan

    1 vote(s)
    0.4%
  8. Evan Turner

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Wes Matthews

    2 vote(s)
    0.7%
  10. All the rest

    11 vote(s)
    4.1%
  1. BleedRocketsRed

    BleedRocketsRed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    Messages:
    7,089
    Likes Received:
    603
    Career highlights and awards
    3× NBA Champion (2003, 2005, 2007)
    2× NBA All-Star (2005, 2011)
    2× All-NBA Third Team (2008, 2011)
    NBA Sixth Man of the Year (2008)
    NBA All-Rookie Second Team (2003)
    Italian League MVP (2001)
    Euroleague Finals MVP (2001)
    FIBA Americas Championship MVP (2001)
    All-Euroleague First Team (2002)
    Italian Cup MVP (2002)
    Italian League MVP (2002)
    FIBA World Cup All-Tournament Team (2002)
    Olimpia de Oro (2003, 2004 (shared))
    FIBA World Championship All-Tournament Team (2006)
    UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador (2007)
    50 Greatest Euroleague Contributors (2008)
    Argentina´s Olympic Flag Bearer (2008)
    Diamond Konex Award (2010)
    FIBA Americas Championship All-Tournament Team (2011)


    That list does not even include his 2004 Olympic Gold Medal in Athens, his 2008 Olympic Bronze Medal in Beijing and his 2002 FIBA World Silver Medal in Indy


    He is absolutely a HOF lock.
     
  2. Outlier

    Outlier Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2006
    Messages:
    8,519
    Likes Received:
    1,342
    ******* this post is so stupid I literally rolled my eyes. Douchebag to the max
     
  3. Shaud

    Shaud Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2008
    Messages:
    18,350
    Likes Received:
    451
    Ginobli definitely should be a hall of famer. The basketball HOF isn't like the Football HOF.

    Even though there have been some snubs in the basketball HOF like Reggie Miller.
     
  4. Outlier

    Outlier Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2006
    Messages:
    8,519
    Likes Received:
    1,342
    Ginobili has that winning in his genes. Ice in his veins. Does all the right things, sacrifices stats, fame, etc. in order to win.
     
  5. Juxtaposed Jolt

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    20,806
    Likes Received:
    16,594
    Ginobili, but followed very closely by Harden.

    Very, very closely.

    Both players are a "I-can-do-it-all" type player, without being the "superstar" mold.

    Though I will claim that Ginobili is sometimes counted on to be the best player on the team sometimes, during some games, whereas Harden doesn't have that pressure.
     
  6. lalala902102001

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2002
    Messages:
    6,618
    Likes Received:
    432

    Well Harden is 12 years younger than Manu. He will only get better.
     
  7. Jontro

    Jontro Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2010
    Messages:
    34,445
    Likes Received:
    22,200
    I would like to resign my Joe Johnson vote and give it to Turner. Dude has 0 votes.
     
  8. Juxtaposed Jolt

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    20,806
    Likes Received:
    16,594
    Ooh, knew I forgot to add something in my post: age!

    What I want to see is Harden be the first option on a different team; I feel as though there is major potential in Harden to be a PG / SG hybrid with Jason Kidd stats.
     
  9. Juxtaposed Jolt

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    20,806
    Likes Received:
    16,594
    And by that, I mean some stat line of averages 17/9/7. Something like that.
     
  10. RudyTBag

    RudyTBag Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2006
    Messages:
    28,105
    Likes Received:
    21,342
    Ray Allen...
     
  11. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    16,152
    Likes Received:
    10,378
    I thought about this but let's be honest, it's been years since Ray was a top 5 SG... he's 36 years old and it shows.
     
  12. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,927
    Likes Received:
    43,300
    haha no argument there, he paid homage.. and that was about it.
    Ray Allen is still one of the best 36 yr old players ever... still an athlete
     
  13. Cohete Rojo

    Cohete Rojo Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2009
    Messages:
    10,344
    Likes Received:
    1,203
    As of right now: Marshon Brooks.
    Since Kobe and Wade in league: Ginobili
    The best in terms of skill: Marshon Brooks
     
  14. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    16,152
    Likes Received:
    10,378
    [​IMG]
     
  15. clos4life

    clos4life Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2007
    Messages:
    10,890
    Likes Received:
    11,838
    Last year I would have said Manu but this year I think old age is catching up to him just enough to give the edge to Harden. Not sure though.
     
  16. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2006
    Messages:
    89,927
    Likes Received:
    43,300
    Lol... what about JLin.... the best undersized Two Guard in town
    He is a SG in a PG's body... we heard that before from H-...Harvard-town.
     
  17. htownrox1

    htownrox1 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2009
    Messages:
    7,345
    Likes Received:
    4,615
    Kevin Martin when healthy.
     
  18. BleedRocketsRed

    BleedRocketsRed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    Messages:
    7,089
    Likes Received:
    603
    Harden's lack of defense should hurt him in this imo.

    It has to be Manu.
     
  19. OremLK

    OremLK Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    16,152
    Likes Received:
    10,378
    Harden is an above average defensive player. He's around the same level as Courtney Lee. Not elite, but good.
     
  20. BleedRocketsRed

    BleedRocketsRed Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    Messages:
    7,089
    Likes Received:
    603
    Yet the Thunder defense is significantly worse with him on the floor.

    http://www.82games.com/1112/11OKC6.HTM
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now