This. IMHO it isn't DM, why would he hate on the guy who's keeping a low profile? DM is anything but a self-promoter, he wants to keep everything on the down-low all the time. Cuban on the other hand is the shameless promoter. He was also in the DB analytics if I remember correctly.
He's not taking a shot at Morey. His point is that outside observers typically don't see the complexities of the GM position. So, unless you believe that Woj thinks Morey is an outside observer, I don't see how you'd think it's a swipe at any current GM. More than likely, it's a shot at guys like Simmons.
so wat, Dm still gona continue to rape all GMs in bball so i could care less bout this scrub Im sure Morey has the least bit given thought of this guy.. heres to gettin Bosh this offseason
Did Morey lobby Howard Beck (or Michael Lewis, for that matter) to write about him? Hell, I don't think he even wants Jason Friedman to write about him that often. Yeah, he's hosting a conference... but the thing used to be not even half the size even last year. Not his fault people got interested. He's getting a lot of attention, and is friends with at least one guy in the media (Simmons), but I don't think it's a result of self-promoting. He's done suprisingly well with the resources he's given and has been innovative in his moves. People paid attention because of that, not because he's self-promoting. But still, attention is attention and people get jealous. Edit: By the way, when Morey was on the "what geeks don't get" panel at the conference, he never reacted whenever anyone (Cuban, Simmons, Lewis) complimented him or the Rockets moves. Of course Simmons praised the guy often. I also remember Cuban talking about liking Kevin Martin very much, and think that the Rockets must have a similar take, but that "They are just smarter than us, so they got him."
Don't know if you had a chance to take notes or you just remember a bunch of stuff from the conference, but if so can you post your extended thoughts on it, particularly stuff related to the Rockets?
Yeah it is a shot at Morey and anyone who attended the convention. For that matter it is a shot at any fan who believes in what DM is doing, anyone who believes in the stat revolution going on, and anyone who thinks things like adjusted +/- mean anything. What im thinging the problem could be is that DM isn't one of the Good ol boys to start off with. It was ok to have one... well... maverick in Cuban coming in trying to change stuff. Then here he comes DM with his fancy-smancy degree from M.I.T. outsmarting everybody with every move he makes. Then has the nerve to start a whole damn convention teaching all these other outsiders how to be better at the their jobs than most of these old gms will ever be. Most of the old head gms either can't/wont't/dont and some will plain refuse to learn a new style of management. They feel the way they operated has been successful so why change, right?! Wrong. They are going to be outdated by a revolution of stat analysis and a big part of it they will look at as DMs fault.
Cuban has pretty good playoffs success. I agree that it was a low blow and very uncalled for. Woj has been quite good at reporting breaking news. But he is poor at analysis.
He's obviously one of those boneheads (in this regard, at least) who feel you have to take sides: You're either a Moneyball believer or an old-school guy. The fact is, most old-school guys have some sort of stats crew nowadays, and the Moneyball guys aren't completely lacking in people skills and actually can tell a good basketball player just by watching him play. Things aren't always as black and white as people try to make them seem when it suits their purpose.
I imagine he probably feels that Morey didn't treat a certain some one with the necessary kid gloves, and thus a nerd without people skills. I remember Frank Bluebunny feeling that way about how JVG was handled
Bingo! My thought as well. Morey may be insulted a bit by association, but I don't think anyone's ever called him a "self-promoter." Nobody outside of ClutchFans and the Sports Guy even knows who he is.
Woj has always been a bitter fool. All his articles are laced with some sort of bitter undertone. He's the national version of Blinebury.
A beat writter for a 5th tier news company telling the GM of a multimillion dollar franchise he doesn't know what he's doing....yeaaaaaaaaaaa. If Woj knew what he was doing he'd be our GM and not taking pot shots from behind his twitter.
...it could refer to a number of guys who have all had playoff success in recent memory, but no rings to show for it who were visible celebrities from the conference - Morey, Pritchard, Cuban to name three of the higher profile ones...but GMs were there from nearly every club from what I have read so I'm afraid Adrian just comes off as a little bit bitter.
take it for what it's worth, he's def. taking about morey....and to be honest, he's 110% right. morey as our gm has yet to produce any postseason result (unless you count that first rd series a huge epic accomplishment)...take it for what it's worth again...
He's not talking about Morey; why would he reference post-season success and championships for a GM that's been here for only a years. He's not a idiot. Plus he's praised numerous Morey moves, IIRC.
Coming from a Sports Writer I wouldn't really care to much about whatever he says because he will never be able/have the opportunity to even kiss the GM job. I'd be more insaulted if it was coming from a veteran GM that has known success, and last I heard, that has never happened.
