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Adelman, Rockets disagreed over successor

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Pat, May 2, 2011.

  1. RV6

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    OK, so they felt that this successor wouldn't be "good" enough to be head coach from the beginning and that's why he needed to be mentored first, right?

    So now that RA left, they're just going to throw this guy out there like that? That makes zero sense. Or are they going to hire a coach who wants a successor? Why would a coach even take a temporary gig like that?

    i dont know what to think anymore...
     
  2. BleedRocketsRed

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    Yeah it is weird. Only way that could work is if they hire an old guy (Larry Brown is always available and down to coach some random team lol).

    Or they just don't tell the next coach about the successor and just say "we think that it would be a good idea for you to interview bla bla bla for a spot on your coaching staff and consider him" or something along those lines.

    Or just completely ditch the successor and hope that he gets experience elsewhere and is available in a few years if they need him.
     
  3. Pat

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    I can see why management's want's the D-league coach there. Makes the Vipers a true Rockets minor league team. Call a player up in mid- season and he knows the offensive sets and where to rotate on defense on day one. Very important, especially in something complicated like the RA offense.

    As to having a successor, I can see that too. Creates stability. One coach goes, another replaces him and he system stays unchanged. Don't have to reinvent the wheel/change personnel every time you have a coaching change. American Funds mutual fund company does that to pretty good success. Lakers are considering this when they look at Brian Shaw [ can continue the triangle. Why install a new offense when Kobe only has a couple of years left?

    And I'll guess that the successor coach was to be a defensive specialist to balance out Rick. How may posters here have asked for a RA/JVG tandem?

    And I can pretty much understand Ricks response of WTF! I'm an old dog, I don't like new tricks and Rick has had success doing it his way,

    A while back I posted that maybe all of these interviews (mostly A- line assistants) was to hire a staff, not just one coach. Maybe the new model is a multifaceted evolving coaching staff. It is different, but I can see it's appeal. Is it the way of the future? I guess that IS the question.
     
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    They probably offered the job to Turner because he knows Adelman's offense. The successor thing is more than likely about adding a defensive assistant to Turners staff so as to have a good mix of offensive and defensive schemes. Makes a lot of sense and is actually a very good idea. Adelman just did not want to part with anyone on his staff, which is understandable.
     
  5. MandM's

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    it is pretty clear that based on all that happened that the rockets front office wanted turner gone and wanted adelman to put this new person in turners place.

    Adelman sttod up for his assistant and walked away. turner then rejected an interview (which probably wasn't offered). sikma wasn't involved it sounds like so he interviewed.

    bad move by rockets front office. no class. I have to give it to rick. i was never much of a supporter but he did the right thing
     
  6. RV6

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    Stability sounds good, but that means they'd only go after players that "fit" and they could misuse exisiting players by putting them in the wrong system. I'm not sure that's going to work unless we have some versatile stars. We can't even get the ones that aren't versatile.
     
  7. MandM's

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    at least that what it sounds like and with all that happened since
     
  8. DCkid

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    Where did you get that from? The article makes it sounds like they were planning on hiring the successor (as in next head coach) from outside the organization

    Why would they need to put Turner on Adelman's coaching staff? He was already there.
     
  9. Joe Joe

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    ? The successor is a competitive position. The transition to head coach is competitive...it is just the successor has been trained for the position making most competitors not very competitive. I've seen successor programs work so that there isn't a drop off when the guard changes. I've also seen successors passed over when they proved they weren't good enough to be the successor.
     
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    They should have hired this Season's coach of the year...oh wait..Thibodeau was van gundy's next in command.
     
  12. mike_lu

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    The successor is Morey! Only kidding ...

    I think it would be great to have Finch on the Rockets as an assistant. Alternatively, they might have considered one of the strong defensive-minded assistant coaches, and wanted RA to teach him the offense.

    We had JVG/TT and RA the past 8 seasons. Wouldn't it be great to have a combined JVG/TT & RA for the next 8 seasons?

    Add two-way players and two-way coaches!
     
  13. durvasa

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    Successor means you already are picking him to be the future head coach.

    Requesting an interview means you'd like to consider him for the head coaching position, along with a number of other candidates.
     
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    I agree, and I think that man was Finch. That's why they were willing to interview and, I think, consider Turner for the Head Coach but not the coach in waiting. They wanted to keep the offensive system, which Turner could do, and to provide a stop gap measure to season Finch.

    It looks like they have it in their heads that Finch is the guy for the futurem but absolutely not the guy of the present.

    I've really been on the side of the front office since Morey was hired, but this is really flakey. I wonder how this all came out.
     
  15. gah

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    I remember Morey praising Finch and talking about "developing" him as a coach, calling him up as an assistant seems like the natural step for me but I can also see Adelman refusing to let an outsider alter the reliability of his staff.
     
  16. coachbadlee

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    I was talking about after Adelman was realeased. Also, imo, they were looking to keep the offense going( with Turner ) while still having a sucessor on his staff.
     
  17. DCkid

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    And all along I thought this was about Adelman not developing players...now I hear it's about Adelman not developing coaches.
     
  18. DCkid

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    Gotcha.

    Yeah, looks like that plan back-fired. Oops. No wonder Turner decided not to interview.
     
  19. Easy

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    So what Adelman mentioned as "unnecessary" is this?

    It's pretty unusual to say the least. For people who say that Morey was hired as CD's successor, CD was going to retire. Grooming a younger guy to make the transition smooth makes sense. Unless Adelman told them that he's going to retire in a couple of years, otherwise telling the head coach to groom a younger guy means they didn't want Adelman for the long term.

    Think about this, Mr Morey. If you were the coach, and you knew that the team were not going to be contending for at least 2 or 3 years. The GM was asking you to groom a young guy in this 2 or 3 years and by the time they had the team ready to contend, you were supposed to be out and let the young guy get the glory. Would you want to stay?
     
  20. T-Slack

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    Fat &ss Fegien finally broke the news on something. Wow. Maybe its my lucky day and I should buy a lotto ticket cause this never happens.
     

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