1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Adelman: Francis not part of rotation

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch34, Oct 29, 2007.

  1. redao

    redao Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    3,819
    Likes Received:
    58
    If SF is patient and wise enough, he should not worry about his playing time on this team because there is going to be a very big chance that:

    1. Alston still can not shoot or create.
    2. Yao and TMAC do not have enough heart.
    3. Mike James and Head are just SGs.


    SF will be in the rotation. If not....., which means none of 1 2 3 happens, it's good too.
     
  2. Lemarc

    Lemarc Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2002
    Messages:
    503
    Likes Received:
    0

    A good kick in the pants never hurt anyone! he just needs to regroup and understand that injury is a part of the game and he could see some time. The season never ends the way it starts. Ala Battier our starting power forward of last season's opening night.
     
  3. Murph23

    Murph23 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2007
    Messages:
    498
    Likes Received:
    0
    I can remember all those times that Derek Harper owned his biatch Kenny "The Slut" Smith. :D
     
  4. johnrox

    johnrox Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2006
    Messages:
    1,058
    Likes Received:
    0
    francis should be worrying about playing time, he needs to worry more, and he needs to get his butt in gear. noone is going to just hand him a job because he is steve francis.
     
  5. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2002
    Messages:
    56,814
    Likes Received:
    39,127
    Fatty, have you watched the games? I'm more than willing to cut him some slack, but I've been, like a lot of people here, stunned that he showed up as out of shape as he is. Later in the thread, B-Bob mentions that perhaps his knees prevented Steve working out like one would expect, if he expected to play. Who knows? Francis isn't saying, but he DID say he was planning to "play his way into shape." If this was last year's team, with no depth at the guard spot, you wouldn't like that, but might put up with it. That isn't, thank goodness, what we're facing now. Francis probably thought Rafer was gone, and the starting or 2nd point off the bench was his. Who cares? You're supposed to show up in shape. Camp and preseason are for learning the system, chemistry, and getting into NBA game shape.

    Steve has, for whatever reason, not done the basics. The good news is that he doesn't appear to be in last season's Bonzi shape, or this preseason's Butler shape. Just not at all where he should be. It's on him. Is it the knees? We haven't heard that. Whatever it is, he should work his ass off so he can make the rotation. Healthy and in shape, he should be a valuable player in the rotation. Francis needs to get there. Kudos to Adelman for not handing him anything.
     
  6. rofflesaurus

    rofflesaurus Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,655
    Likes Received:
    230
    i just love how everyone is talking about how "out of shape" francis is right after adelman mentioned it. noone seemed to be talking about his "chunkyness" when he made that amazing dunk on the hornets. seems to be all the francis huggers are trying to come up with every little excuse why he's failing. point is, francis just isn't good. he never was, and never will be. he was overrated by an entire city and franchise. there's a reason why he was traded four times in four years. orlando didn't want him, knicks fans rejoiced when he was gone, and portland didn't even look at him.
     
  7. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2002
    Messages:
    56,814
    Likes Received:
    39,127
    You might try reading the board, with all due respect. The condition Francis showed up in has been a topic for quite some time. I won't repond to the mumbo-jumbo.
     
  8. dadesokan

    dadesokan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2005
    Messages:
    515
    Likes Received:
    31
    Out of Curiosity, I thought Steve had this intense workout program over the summer to get in shape? He had a personal training and all and flew out of Houston every week to get ready? Was this a joke or he was doing something else? I can believe he is complaining about being left out of the rotation. He is not better at this point than any of the other guards. He should be greatful he is not on the injured list.

    Steve, you were an all star before, so you know what it required to succeed in this league. Swallow your ego, work hard and you will get back in the rotation at some point in the season. HOPEFULLY IF YOU ARE STILL HERE!

    - DA
     
  9. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 1999
    Messages:
    98,148
    Likes Received:
    40,758
    how many championships did Harper win? Who won that series?

    There's something wrong with you if you only remember negative thoughts of the Rockets CHAMPIONSHIPS>

    but then again, you are probably not a real fan, so you wouldn't know.
     
  10. dadesokan

    dadesokan Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2005
    Messages:
    515
    Likes Received:
    31
    Out of Curiosity, I thought Steve had this intense workout program over the summer to get in shape? He had a personal trainer and all and flew out of Houston every week to get ready? Was this a joke or he was doing something else? I can't believe he is complaining about being left out of the rotation. He is not better at this point than any of the other guards. He should be greatful he is not on the injured list.

    Steve, you were an all star before, so you know what it required to succeed in this league. Swallow your ego, work hard and you will get back in the rotation at some point in the season. HOPEFULLY IF YOU ARE STILL HERE!

    - DA
     
  11. RockingRox

    RockingRox Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,655
    Likes Received:
    259
    I would guess you are right. I feel for SF3.

     
  12. AggNRox

    AggNRox Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,284
    Likes Received:
    59

    i like your debate style.

    Here is my: there's a reason why he was picked as 2nd selection overall. raptors wanted him badly but unfortunately he didn't want to play over there. houston got him with huge cost. he won co-ROY in his first year NBA career. rox fans was thrilled when he joined rox. :eek:

    i like my response :D
     
  13. RockingRox

    RockingRox Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,655
    Likes Received:
    259
    I second that.

    Just recall what TMac had to offer, "he's a step slow. He's aged..." These could be translated into "he showed up out of shape."

     
  14. madmonkey37

    madmonkey37 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2003
    Messages:
    2,499
    Likes Received:
    52
    LOL, you do know thats what Stevie did when he was in NY right.
     
  15. madmonkey37

    madmonkey37 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2003
    Messages:
    2,499
    Likes Received:
    52
    You think Francis is the one to take us to the next level? The guy couldn't even take any of his teams to the playoffs and your hoping his presence is going to take us all the way?
     
  16. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    35,659
    Likes Received:
    7,659
    Oh, that's right, he won co-ROY 8 years ago.

    I've changed my mind. Adleman MUST start him now.
     
  17. AggNRox

    AggNRox Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,284
    Likes Received:
    59
    see how blind some fans are! :D

    before responsing my post, please read the original post that i reponsed to.

    here quoted is from the orignal post:

     
  18. mms

    mms Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2007
    Messages:
    1,189
    Likes Received:
    25
    Hopefully MJ will get injured soon so SF will join the rotation.
     
  19. AggNRox

    AggNRox Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,284
    Likes Received:
    59
    btw, rafer has been our best pg among our pgs we have since the training camp started. he should be the starter just based on training camp and preseason games. but think about it a little bit deeper. don't you feel really bad? all these bashes on rafer last season suddenly gone and disappeared. wow, what happene? he is not our weak link anymore?

    now. let's talk about sf. as far as i know, ra mentioned sf is not in the rotation due to his playing shape. nothing else, why hell all those bball experts on this bbs trash sf unless you know more than i know. i doubt it is the case.
     
  20. TeamUSA

    TeamUSA Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2006
    Messages:
    2,770
    Likes Received:
    5
    c'mon people, Steve is not out of shape. He still has that explosiveness, can dunk, can rebound.

    The problem with Steve is that his game is not effective when there are other good players in the team.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now