89-Year-Old WWII Veteran Beaten To Death By Two Black Teens…

Awful. It amazes me that there are so many people capable of killing in this world.

Or can lock women up in a basement.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

Right... and if they were all white, D&D's population of caucasians fighting the war against white guilt would actually see it for what it was. A senseless and tragic crime that doesn't need racial commentary.

 

yeah! they need to throw all black teens in jail. They are all violent criminals anyway.

 

Sorry, I don't determine newsworthiness by the number of theoretical page views and posts on the Clutchfans D&D forum.

 

I guess the point is that Obama shouldn't have gone there to make that remark, because indeed, every time violence is committed by a young black person, the remark does backfire at him.

 

Have a read. I dare you.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/22/teen-charged-in-thrill-kill-australian-college-student-in-oklahoma-has-racist/

http://www.pnj.com/article/20130814/NEWS11/308140021/Five-teens-arrested-after-assaulting-elderly-man-in-Pensacola?gcheck=1

http://www.westernjournalism.com/15-black-teens-beat-white-teen-unconscious/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KpF5o9yARc

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-monday-20130715,0,5135359.story

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/215610861.html

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/tea-party-report/2012/apr/22/first-trayvon-martin-related-hate-crime-reported-c/

http://articles.philly.com/2011-08-07/news/29861514_1_attacks-three-teens-juvenile-crime

None of these got anything remotely close to the attention of the Martin/Zimmerman case, yet it would be far easier to argue that almost every single one of these cases was racially motivated.

OP is simply putting an exclamation point on the double standard and the hypocrisy we see in these race-baiting cases.

 

Right - blacks hate white people. What you want to do about it? How do you stop blacks from killing white people?

 

Hmm... I don't remember writing that part. Refresh my memory, please?

Stop trying to destroy the nuclear family. Stop trying to remove religion from American life. Redouble efforts to destroy gang culture. Stop glorifying this sort of behavior in popular media.

Not what you wanted to hear? Then acts like this will continue to happen with regularity, and we can debate it from here to eternity.

 

1) I don't see gender mentioned; what about the even wider problem of male disposition towards violent crimes?

Mentioning race in this title would only be relevant to people looking to feed a confirmation bias(Tendency to favor information that confirms their beliefs or hypotheses). It as necessary as skin color on a scouting report.

Not only did you defend it though, you throw out some lazy statistic like framing gives the argument legs to stand on.

Pitching that bigotry as a means of highlighting social issues is embarrassingly weak.

2) This is so clearly wrong that arguing doesn't seem necessary.

 

Exactly! Them damn gays and atheists are the problem.

You are part of the problem.

 

Yep. Not even much more to say here.

Except that I find it ironic how so many people get on the media for hyping up the Zimmerman story and making it about race...and then go and do the exact same thing.

Headlines like these help keep racial division. May not seem like much, but if everytime you turn on the news you hear how a black man did this or that, you parrot stats every now and then how high black on black crime (and ignore other stats) you do this enough and then without even saying it you put out there "Those black folks...violent right?" hint hint nudge nudge.

Not that the media is still currently doing this as much as they used to, it varies from station to station.

 

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Because those cases are NOT like Trayvon Martin's case, which was ignored. Again, if Zimmerman had just been trialed none of that Trayvon Martin **** happens.

I'm not sure why some of you that continue to bring this up after ever crime do not understand this.

 

the police were vindicated -- they were right all along

 

But it wasn't about if they were right or wrong. That's not why this blew up.

You have to understand, while black and brown people are getting stopped and frisked in NYC...A man shoots a teenager and walks away from it. It was more than black folks who were upset about that, that should NEVER happen. I don't care what law a state has it should be changed. No way should a man shoot another man dead even by accident and get up, spend a few hours at a police station, and then just go home. No way that should never happen.

If Zimmerman was arrested, stood trial, this isn't a big story. A old white man shot a black kid in front of his mother, Remember that story? It came out around the same time as the verdict of the Trayvon case...no one made a fuss about it. It's sad that it happened but the man was arrested, etc etc.

And there is black on white crime...white on black crime...every year...and why did Trayvon's case get that much attention? Because Zimmerman was going to walk home the same day.

 

The gender disparity in violence is a biological problem. Society recognizes this and develops institutions to mitigate it (marriage, sports, prison).

Despite your baseless charges of racism, disproportionate levels of black violence is not a biological problem, it is a cultural problem. One that you and others choose to ignore. Which does nothing to help blacks being gunned down every day by other blacks.

What information am I ignoring that disputes the notion that blacks are more violent than whites in the US? That's not a hypothesis, it's just crime data.

Blacks are more violent than whites, but the reason is not biological. Skin color is only relevant in that it means one is more likely (but not always) to be a product of a specific set of cultural values.

 

the NUCLEAR family and religion DOING WORK.

 

right, we can adjust for biological factors but not cultural. those poor male souls, they were just born with that curse of being more violent.

and of course, nobody says anything about how men raised in the Western context are by default affected by a specific set of cultural values.

btw---

http://books.google.ca/books/about/...nd_Cellmates.html?id=E1yEigS_O6oC&redir_esc=y

but yeah, that must be because there is more estrogen in the air.

 

That's a shallow examination. In the U.S. historically speaking the higher the poverty rate the higher the crime. With black communities more largely savaged by poverty then poverty would be the factor. That's just crime data.

What's sick is that bobmarley used the tragedy of this WWII veteran's death to play the race card. What a classless and disgusting move by bobmarley.

 

White people are killing white people too...

What do you mean by violence? Crime Data?

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43

According to 2011 crime arrests...

White people were arrested for...

69% for forcible rape.
63% Aggravated Assault
68% Larceny-theft
72% Arson
72% Sex offenses
65% abuses against children or family
...

In 2011, 69.2 percent of all individuals arrested were white, 28.4 percent were black, and 2.4 percent were of other races.

Of all juveniles (individuals under the age of 18) arrested in 2011 in the nation, 65.7 percent were white, 32.0 percent were black, and 2.3 percent were of other races.

So which culture do we need to look at here? "Black" culture or "American" culture as a whole?

You see how one could take these stats and say "Oh white people are more violent." Because of leading the charge in rape, child abuse, arson, etc?

 

This does not serve the narrative so it won't be reported.

While they can sensationalize this. . .. what are the chances these men will be chilling taking pictures with gun sellers after the trail?
What are the chances in *ANY* of these cases presented that they VICTIM will be put on TRIAL and The killers will be set free.

When ANY of these people are set free by a jury . . .come back to this thread and post it . .. . until then a lot of folx and their crap can stfu.

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