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57-11-7 game of Lebron

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by OTMax, Nov 4, 2017.

  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    I'm one of the biggest homers on the board bruh, I prioritize the organization over individual players especially overpaid players like Ryan Anderson.
     
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    I'll give you the hairline, Harden has Lebron beat on hair.
     
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  3. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    Just out of curiosity: wouldn't this be what an employee does rather than a fan?
     
  4. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    Yeah I remember liking a ton of your posts, thats why I was surprised.

    Yeah we all agree anderson is overpaid. I just thought it was reaching to criticize his performance for only having 6 points in a game where he shot 50% (2-4) from 3 and the whole teams was grooving blowing out the jazz while harden was en fuego.

    Would’ve been selfish for Anderson to take FGAs away from Harden to try to get 20 points there.
     
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    Was Gordon selfish? He scored 20 pts and took shots away from Harden. How about Ariza with 14 pts, I guess he was selfish too lol. The point is at the end of the day Anderson is still a shooter, thats what he is paid to do if he isn't shooting I'd rather have Luc or PJ Tucker on the floor. Look at Gordon that dude tries to get his every night, Anderson should have that mentality and learn from his buddy.
     
  6. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    Anderson has a different skill set and a different role on this team than Gordon. Anderson doesnt create. He spaces the floor.

    Ariza has a somewhat similar role on the perimeter as Anderson but defenses choose to leave ariza open more often than Anderson.

    This is a rythymic free flowing offense. Anderson doesnt need to force anything and disrupt the teams rythym if its not there when we are blowing a team out by 30 and harden is dominating.

    His efficiency percentages this year are great and we are the 2nd highest ranked offense in the nba

    He is a good teammate.
     
  7. durvasa

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    Anderson’s job on offense is primarily to be a floor spacer. Even if he’s not putting up a bunch of shots, his range shooting capability is helping the team. I didn’t watch for it closely, but I suppose Harden (and the team) benefited from all the floor spacers on the floor with him.
     
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  8. roslolian

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    Not really, you stick with the institu
    ution rather than individual players otherwise if you just liked Hakeem you would stop following the team anymore.

    I wouldn't appreciate Luc Mbah A Moute for doing so much on a vet min contract if he was playing for the Celts, for example. I don't really keep tabs on Dwight and Bev anymore either. People are like this more often than you think, how many people started calling Parsons Portions after he signed with the Mavs when they were huge fans of him on the Rox? If you liked players more it wouldn't matter where he played, for example I'm a huge fan of Lebron whether he was on the Heat or the Cavs.
     
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    Yeah but if you just wanted a floor spacer then PJ Tucker can just stand on the 3 pt line and it'll have the same effect and then Tucker will be better at rebounding, defense etc. The point is Anderson's edge is he is supposed to be the superior shooter, if he isn't shooting and you just have him as a spacer then whats the diff between him and streaky shooters like PJ? It's like Schrodinger's cat, without the actual shot the streaky shooter and the 40% shooter have the same ambigous threat.

    Teams scout opponents too, they pay attention to which player can blow up. If you develop a rep for being a small time scorer like Anderson did last year I really doubt opposing teams will guard you way harder than somebody like say Luc or PJ. Even if Anderson stands way putside the 3 pt line if he just shoots a couple of times each game then opponents won't close out on him that hard since they know he won't shoot. If teams crunch the nos and realize you only contribute around 2 made 3s despite shooting 40% from 3 will they still guard you closely? Or will they prioritize bigger threats like Harden or Gordon?

    I mean the Spurs figured it out, Anderson was shooting 28% from 3 and only took so 5.5 3 pt shots so they just packed the paint since they knew Anderson wouldn't be able to make them pay. If we had a trigger happy chucker like say Antoine Walker then even if be was shooting 28% teams would still have to guard him closely because he might get lucky from the chucked shots.
     
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    Just curious. I think most people don't assign to your view, and that's where the differences are emerging. Most people are not supporting bilion dollar corporations, they are supporting a culture and a basketball team.

    Maybe people can chime in with how they view it.
     
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    He had Wall short self guarding and Lebron was punishing him with the midrange game. Doesnt count.
     
  12. roslolian

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    The basketball team is the billion dollar corporation, in fact the Rockets are valied at 2.4B dollars. The culture is with the team itself and not the players, when Horford went to the Celtics he said it was because of their "winning culture", if it was due to the players then the winning culture was already gone since all the players of their last championship are already out of the organization.
     
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    For better or worse you are. Nothing wrong with that. But there should be realists as well.

    Hilarious convos ensue.
     
  14. Mathloom

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    These are highly subjective statements. I certainly don't give a rat's ass about the marketing staff, the organizational staff, the owner, etc. The culture is not the organization to me. The culture is the culture of the players, and the organization has a culture that I don't care about (although I acknowledge Morey is an impressive pioneer of basketball ideas).

    I think you're assuming what you're saying is "true" when in reality it's what you believe. Again, I don't think most fans agree with you and that's where the conflict is arising.
     

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