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2020 Campaign Disinformation (Propaganda) Thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Jan 2, 2020.

  1. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Contributing Member
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    I know. I just said that.
     
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    I have yet to see anyone claim he's a good guy.

    Him being a bad guy is not the point.

    Jesus Christ
     
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    That's propaganda!
     
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    Then why are you posting it here?
     
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    It matches the premise of this thread doesn't it?
     
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    no, he's playing a game. Painting Soliemani in a bad light is not propaganda. He was a terrorist and a general. Nothing in his post was propaganda.
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    I was posting on the relentless propagandizing of the Trump wag-the-dog reelection campaign:

     
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    Don’t believe Iranian propaganda about the mourning for Soleimani
     
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    Which presidential candidate is putting out Iranian propaganda about Soleimani?
     
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    No you are trying to say that everything is propaganda
     
  11. Os Trigonum

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    clearly Trump paid off that Washington Post reporter to write that piece about Iranian propaganda. He's trying to play 4D chess but it's not working, I can see right through it
     
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    Why must you be so annoying? Can't you have a serious debate ever?
     
  13. Os Trigonum

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    I suppose it depends on the topic and who's doing the debating. but I'll let this go for now.
     
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    He won't just come out and say you are an enemy of the state for possibly thinking Trump is wagging the dog so this is his roundabout cowards way of doing it.
     
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    You love your opinion pieces don't you? I am specifically talking about lies being presented as facts. If you want to show were Democrats are making a big deal of the entirety of Iran mourning this guy go for it, although I am not even sure what it matters what percentage of Iranians are mourning him.

    The issue of killing him wasn't about how popular it would be in Iran.

    And it's not propaganda to say Trump is wagging the dog.

    There's not strategy behind this action. None. It's obvious there isn't. It just seems random and reactionary. Because it is! Trump is either getting sick of being restrained and finally gets to push his button he always talks about, and/or he is desperate to distract the country from impeachment and give them something else to talk about. It's probably both.
     
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    I may also have misunderstood the point of the thread.
     
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    For things like videos doctored to mislead people into believing a lie. Complete and utter falsehoods. Opinion pieces are opinions. False facts
     
  18. Os Trigonum

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    does satire count if people don't understand it as satire? need a ruling

     
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    Satire can be propaganda but it's not always propaganda. It depends on the truthfulness of the underlying message (not on the satire itself). Nazis use satire with great effect as propaganda.

    In this instance with the babylon bee - the headline is obviously satirical. Democrats obviously don't want the flag to be flown at half mast.

    But it's far darker because the underlying message is that Democrats are sympathetic to Soleimani - and that underlying message of the satire is in fact propaganda because it's simply not true. Dems are not sympathetic to the general but rather disagree with the method uses to rid ourselves of him.
     
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    She's going down the Graham and Cruz path. Whatever political integrity she had is gone with her debasing herself like this for the past few months. Bright career outlook with the Trump brand of Republicans and their supporters.
     

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