How so? The 2005 Astros were coming off an NCLS run, had a roster mostly intact from the previous year, and didn't make any major trades. Drayton's delusions were in 2007+ when they had lost major pieces of the 2004 and 2005 teams in Bagwell, Clemens and Pettitte.
If they keep them, DeGrom, Thor, Stroman, Wheeler is a pretty strong foursome for the playoffs (in 2020). Of course, if Thor and Wheeler were pitching like frontline pitchers, the Mets would be in the playoff picture, not 6 games back.
Understood, but why? It’s not like you have to worry about next year until 11/1/19. Some of the value for Stroman has playoff potential in 2019 prices into it, so the Mets by definition had to pay a higher price to get him while a playoff run is wasted. But, I’m on record as saying I think Stroman is one step above hot garbage when it comes to being a playoff hammer so I’m pretty much happy if we said “pass”
I'm glad Stroman went to the Mets. It kept him away from the Yankees and I didn't really like him that much for our team.
At least now people can calm down about how expensive pitching will be. Stroman fetched 2 2nd tier prospects. Tucker ain’t going nowhere unless multiple good players are coming back.
The team lost two big bats (Beltran and Kent), which ended up costing us in the postseason. If I recall correctly, we also still had to jump 6 teams during the non waiver deadline. Reloading for depth would have been a reasonable option since the pitching corp would still be there in 2006.
One thing on Thor... I don’t know how much it matters, but it looks like Hinch/Luhnow purposefully broke up the back-to-back Verlander-Cole post ASB. Hard to say causality, but both of those guys are on a roll. JV and Cole are not identical pitchers, but they’re both high-octane righties. Thor fits that mold too. I wonder how the team feels about that stylistic question - in a playoff series, does that reduce their effectiveness given the similarity?
Yeah it is a bizarre trade. The Blue Jays wanted pitching and at least one reasonably close to the big leagues. Either the Blue Jays really like those two particular prospects or teams are not offering much. Witch the Yankees starting pitcher issues, I am surprised they didn’t offer more than the Mets did for Stroman.
Great point and I do buy that there is something to this. Mad Bum is a different type of pitcher, and left handed. He is the perfect guy to balance our rotation.
Never mind, I’m thinking Kemp, Straw, Tucker for Syndergaard and Stroman (realllllllly thinking outside the box lol )
Because they knew he was on the block and someone was going to acquire him in the next free days, so they wanted to grab him?
So Having Stroman now so you can be “ready for 2020” was worth your 2 best pitching prospects? This is a really stupid organization we are talking about.
