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[2015-2016] Jeremy Lin as a Charlotte Hornet

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  1. conquistador#11

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    this thread has almost as many views as some rockets threads that were started 4 seasons ago.
     
  2. Tonnny

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    The way he Lead Charlotte past LBJ's Cavaliar, Spurs, Raptors, Celtics, and the 1st win of playoff game in 15 years shows how good a player he is. In the game vs Spurs, even Kawhi Leonard, the 2 times defensive player of the year, can't slow him down.

    https://youtu.be/gJQjvvQYTLM
     
  3. Tonnny

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    You never know. Lin keeps breaking record, making history.
     
  4. krnxsnoopy

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    GTFO with that **** lol

    You're crazy talk is making the rest of us rational fans look bad
     
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  5. yoeddy

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    Well, Lin has actually said that he loved the system in Houston, but the fit with the team was not great. He stopped short of calling out any of his teammates or coaches, but it was obvious that those were factors of the fit issues.

    D'Antoni's assessment of Lin was that Lin would be "a solid NBA player" given his skills and BBIQ as a baseline, and that put in the right position (eg. system, teammates, etc) that he could be "great" like he was during Linsanity.
     
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    Just ignore him dude.

    He's not going to respond to your post with "intelligent basketball discussion"
     
  7. tinman

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    He doesn't like talking to lofs .
    Lofs are here to troll Rockets fans.
     
  8. FTW Rockets FTW

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    So now you know more than Lin? Lin fans are certified liars for a reason besides being dumb and delusional.

     
  9. yoeddy

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    But he will respond with something ridiculously funny!
     
  10. yoeddy

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    What did I lie about?
     
  11. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Of the top of my head, you lied about Lin not being demoted for PBev and ultimately dumped.
     
  12. yoeddy

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    http://www.si.com/nba/point-forward/2013/10/30/jeremy-lin-patrick-beverley-bench

    "This, more than anything, is a matter of fit. Beverley is the right player for this role, for reasons that have nothing to do with whether he's generally a better player than Lin. The starting five is a lineup like any other -- one that requires a balance of skills and space in order to be effective. Given that McHale opted to include both Howard and Asik in that mix, Beverley -- a more accurate three-point shooter than Lin -- is the more fitting complement."
     
  13. Tonnny

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    http://www.jeremylintel.com/2016/03/25/jeremy-lin-breaks-nba-records-wherever-he-goes/


    Jeremy Lin Breaks NBA Records wherever he Goes
    Posted on March 25, 2016 by JLintel


    Ever since Linsanity, Jeremy Lin has broken records wherever he goes, so I wanted to write a post to consolidate all of the records I can think of that Jeremy Lin has broken. I’ll do this in reverse chronological order. If you think of records that I may have missed, please include them in the comments below. As you’ll see, for an “average player” Jeremy Lin sure does break a lot of NBA records, including some of the most difficult ones to break.

    3/21/2016 Jeremy Lin leads the Charlotte Hornets’s second best comeback in franchise history against the San Antonio Spurs.

    Hornets were down 7 to 30 seconds into the 2nd quarter and went on to beat the San Antonio Spurs 91 to 88, thanks to a game-high 29 point performance by Jeremy Lin (15 points in the 4th quarter). This 23-point comeback win is just one point shy of the record, which was set on October 29, 2014 when the Hornets came back from a 24 point deficit to defeat the mediocre Milwaukie Bucks. To come back against the Bucks is one thing, but to do this against the elitist of elite teams is just too improbable to believe. Somehow, Lin keeps managing to do the impossible. I still can’t believe how Lin/Hornets managed that comeback. It’s inexplicable!
    The Hornets only scored 7 points in the entire 1st quarter (while Jeremy Lin was on the bench). The last team to only score 7 points or fewer in the first quarter and still win was the Utah Jazz in 2008.
    The Spurs have never lost a game when leading by 20 points or more in the first quarter.
    Prior to this game, the Spurs had a 72-game streak of never losing after leading by 15+ points.
    This game was the first time in NBA history that a team with at least 50 wins lost a regular season game with a lead of at least 20 points at the end of first quarter.
    The 23-point lead is the largest lead Gregg Popovich, possibly the greatest coach of all time, has lost in his very long tenure as an NBA head coach.
    The 23- point lead is the largest lead the Spurs have given up in the Tim Duncan (Spurs superstar and one of the greatest players of all time) era (1997 to present).
    Jeremy Lin lead the Hornets’s first win against the Spurs since January 15, 2010, before Kemba Walker, Hornets’s starting point guard, was even in the NBA. That’s right, Walker has never beaten the Spurs before Lin joined the team. On this historic night, Kemba Walker only scored 6 points on 2 of 11 shooting in 29.5 minutes. This is probably Walker’s lowest minutes played this season. So if the Hornets somehow make it to the NBA finals and face the Spurs, they may want to keep this in mind if they want a chance of beating the elite Spurs. Kemba’s good if you want to beat sub-.500 teams, but if you want to beat the great teams, you need Jeremy Lin to be your main guy.
    Jeremy Lin came off the bench and outscored the Spurs’s entire bench 29 to 18. Spurs entered the game 3rd in the NBA in bench scoring at 39.7 PPG.
    Lin managed to score 15 points in the fourth quarter against quite possibly the best defensive team of all time. Meanwhile, Spurs held superstars like Chris Paul, Westrbook, and Steph Curry (the NBA’s leading scorer and in the running for the greatest player of all time) to zero points in the fourth quarter in their recent match ups.
    2/3/2016 Jeremy Lin starts at point guard for the first time for the Hornets and leads the Hornets to their first victory over LeBron James since 2010


    With Hornet’s starting point guard, Kemba Walker, injured, Jeremy Lin started in his natural position at point guard for the first time in a Hornets uniform. The results, as expected, was spectacular. Lin scored 24 points, 8 assists and 5 rebounds to end LeBron James’s (who will go down as one of the greatest players of all-time) personal 21-game winning streak against the Charlotte franchise. The Hornets’s last victory against LeBron occurred on February 19, 2010, before Kemba Walker was even in the NBA. That’s right, Kemba Walker has never beaten LeBron James, so if the Hornets make it to the Eastern Conference Finals and want a chance at beating the Cleveland Cavaliers, they may want to keep in mind that Lin is 1-0 as a starter with the Hornets against Lebron James, while Kemba Walker has never won a game against LeBron James in his five years with the Hornets.
    2/1/2014 Jeremy Lin became only the third player since 1985 to get a triple-double playing 29 minutes or less coming off the bench

    In Jermey Lin’s second season with the Rockets, McHale relegated Lin to the bench, but that didn’t stop Lin from breaking one of the most improbable records. Lin managed to get a triple-double coming off the bench against the Cleveland Cavaliers.
    Lin scored 15 points, 11 rebounds and 10 assists, all while playing off position and from the bench in just over 29 minutes (29:11).
    Lin became the first Houston Rockets player to have a triple-double off the bench since Cedric Maxwell did it on March 31, 1988, against Indiana.
    Only 16 players have managed to get a triple-double with 29 minutes or less of playing time since 1985 and they include Hall-of-Famers and elites, such as Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Jason Kidd, Shaquille O’Neal, Kevin Durant, Russel Westbrook, Stephen Curry, etc. So Lin became just the 17th player to achieve such a feat.
    Lin becomes only the third player since 1985 to get a triple-double playing 29 minutes or less coming off the bench. There’s a reason why there are so few players who have done this. Getting a triple double is so rare, because you’re doing everything on the court and usually, the guys who tend to do everything on the court are the superstars and Hall-of-Famers. But Lin managed to do this as a guy coming off the bench, playing only 29 minutes! This stuff just doesn’t happen. You have to be uber-talented and skilled to pull this off. Yet, McHale felt Jeremy Lin belonged on the bench. But thanks to McHale, Lin managed to put up one of the most improbable records in NBA history!
    11/13/2013 Jeremy Lin ties the Houston Rockets franchise record for the most threes made in a single game against the Philadelphia 76ers.

    Jeremy Lin was in his second season with the Houston Rockets and was relegated to the bench by McHale. However, on this night, James Harden was injured and we Lin fans know all too well what happens when the “superstar” on Lin’s team is injured and Lin gets inserted into the starting lineup! That’s right, Lin breaks records. He hit nine three-pointers (9 of 15), which ties Robert Horry’s 1996 record for the most threes in Rockets’s franchise history. To me, this is the most hilarious record for Lin to break, because Lin is not even that good of a three-point shooter. So Lin breaks records that he has no business of breaking, that’s how good Lin is at breaking records!
    Lin ended the night with 34 points and, get this, 11 assists! I’m not sure, but hitting 9 threes and dishing out 11 assists in one game may have tied or broken an NBA record.
    2/5/2013 Jeremy Lin helps the Houston Rockets tie the NBA record for threes in a blowout of the Golden State Warriors (140 to 109)

    Rockets tied an NBA record for threes going 23 of 40 from three point (57.5%). Jeremy Lin made the most threes on the team going 5 for 8 from three-point range. The Orlando Magic held the previous record on January 13, 2009 during a 139-107 blowout of the Sacramento Kings.
    Rockets tied an NBA record with 14 three-pointers (14 of 18) in the first half.
    On this night, the Rockets managed to break their previous franchise record with their 18th three-pointer in the third quarter.
    It’s ironic that the Rockets accomplished this feat against the best three point shooting team in the NBA.
    2/5/2013 Jeremy Lin helps the Houston Rockets score the most points (140) in Toyota Center since April 1995 in a blowout of the Golden State Warriors (140 to 109)

    Jeremy Lin scored a game-high 28 points, which surpasses all players in the game by a large margin. The second leading scorer in the game was Jarrett Jack of the Warriors with 20. James Harden was the second leading scorer for the Rockets with only 18 points. By the way, Lin also managed to dish out 9 assists and was a +37, while Curry, being guarded by Lin, only scored 7 points (on 3 of 12 shooting) and was a -27.
    With Lin’s help, Rockets scored 38 in the first quarter, which is the most they scored in the first quarter for the season.
    Lin and the Rockets scored 77 at the end of the first half, which is the most the Rockets had scored in a half all season.
    By the way, have the Rockets broken any franchise or NBA records since Jeremy Lin left?
    2/10/2012 Jeremy Lin scores the most points (38) of any Knicks player up to that point in the season against Kobe Bryant and the LA Lakers

    Everyone remembers this game, so no need to say much more. 38 points is, of course, also a career high for Jeremy Lin. Keep in mind, though, that this Knicks team includes Carmelo Anthony, who is a prolific scorer himself. So for Lin to score the most of any Knick up until that point that season is notable.
    Lin scored 38 points against the Lakers, who were actually a good team back then. Melo, a prolific scorer, never managed to score this many points against the Lakers franchise during his tenure with the Knicks. The last Knicks player to score 38 points or more against the Lakers was Stephon Marbury, who had 45 on March 29, 2005. This is just another example of how Lin shows up, especially in big moments and for big games. This is why Lin has become a Spurs killer.
    During Linsanity February 2012, Jeremy Lin became only the 15th player to have scored at least 20 points, seven assists and one steal for six games in a row since 1985

    I know this seems like an odd record to talk about, but I came across this in an article and what makes this notable are the names of the other players who have accomplished this same feat: Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Gary Payton, Allen Iverson, Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul, Lebron James. Of course these are hall-of-famers, but what’s also notable is that most of these players are also known to be great defenders. Like I’ve been saying all along, Jeremy Lin is an underrated defender.
    During Linsanity February 2012, Jeremy Lin became the first NBA player in history to score at least 20 points and have seven assists in each of his first five starts.

    Unlike the record above, Lin has no company here. In the first five starts, no one but Lin has scored at least 20 points and have 7 assists. I don’t think people really understand how difficult it is to play the point guard position. There’s a reason why no player has done what Lin did. It takes not only a great deal of skill and B-Ball IQ, but also lots of experience, to run an offense and to do so as a starter for the first time is even more challenging. Prior to Linsanity, Jeremy Lin barely played much in the NBA, so managed to run an offense and score at a high clip without having hardly any NBA experience. Lin managed to not only score at least 20 points, but also dish out at least 7 assists in his first five starts, playing with a team he’s just getting to know. Lin didn’t have the luxury going to training camp with these guys, in fact, when Lin stepped on the court in the first Linsanity game against the Nets, he hadn’t even had one practice with any of his teammates!
    By the way, Lin had 25 points and 7 assists in his debut Linsanity game against the Nets, but that game is not included in this “first five starts” because Lin didn’t start in that fateful Nets game. Lin did pretty much play as a starter in that game, logging 36 minutes, so if we count that game, then it’s a streak of 6 games with at least 20 points and 7 assists!
    During Linsanity February 2012, Jeremy Lin made NBA history by scoring the most points (136) in his first five starts of any player since the NBA and ABA merged in 1976


    This is, perhaps, Jeremy Lin’s most well-known record and is probably his most impressive. With his 27 points in one of Lin’s most memorable games on Valentines day against the Raptors, he easily surpassed Shaquille O’Neal for the most points scored in the first five starts of a career. Shaq’s previous record was 129, which stood for 20 years before Lin took it down.
    The players that Lin beat out are future Hall-of-Famers and Hall-of-Famers: Shaquille O’Neal (129), Michael Jordan (116), Allen Iverson (107), LeBron James (84), Kobe Bryant (80). There’s a reason why this list is full of future Hall-of-Famers. It’s damn hard to take over the game as a young player getting your first start in the NBA and score at a high rate. Yet, many in the NBA seem to have already dismissed the significance of what Lin did during Linsanity, as if it was some sort of fluke, when in fact it is what Lin can do if given significant playing time and allowed to be the primary ball handler. Lin also managed this feat without really knowing any of his teammates, since he had just joined the team. He didn’t have, for example, the luxury of a training camp. This is something that I think a lot of people don’t really give enough thought to. A lot of people dismiss what Lin did during Linsanity by saying that the defense wasn’t ready for him, etc., but they fail to recognize the challenges, such as not really knowing any of his teammates, getting quickly up to speed on new system/plays, and having to perform with the spotlight of the entire world on you, etc.
    Lin also scored 89 and 109 in his first three and four starts, respectively, which are also the most of any player since the merger between the ABA and NBA in 1976. Once again, Lin is completely alone in achieving one of the most difficult records in the NBA. This is the record or all records, folks! Lin’s record will stay for a long time and there’s a very good chance that it will never be surpassed!




    EDITOR’S NOTE: WHAT FOLLOWS ARE RECORDS LIN HAS BROKEN SINCE PUBLISHING OF THIS ARTICLE

    4/23/14 Jeremy Lin leads Hornets in Hornets’s first playoff win in 14 years off the bench

    Lin had a team high 18 points, 4 rebounds and 4 assists, 1 steal and 2 blocks in only 26 minutes of playing time.
    Lin’s 18-point performance was more than the entire Heat reserves combined (13).
    Lin finished with a +17. Only Zeller had a better +/- with a +18.
    Once again, it’s Lin, not Kemba who leads the Hornets in yet another tough and imporatnt win. Kemba still has yet to lead the Hornets in tough/important wins. Even though Walker scored 17 points, he did so with a very innefiicient 4-19 from the field and he also played 36.5 minutes.
    Lin gave the Hornets thier first playoff win since March 12, 2002 in the Eastern Conference Finals against the New Jersey Nets. Kemba has yet to lead the Hornets to a playoff victory. Just saying.
    4/11/16 Jeremy Lin is first Hornets player since since 1997 to come off the bench and have 25 points and 4 or more steals

    Lin lead the Hornets past the Boston Celtics in Boston with 25 points and 5 steals off the bench. According to a tweet from Charlotte Hornets PR, the last Hornets player to get at least 25 points and 4 steals off the bench was Tony Deik on 4/9/97, also against Boston, coincidentally.
    Lin also snapped Celtic’s 5-game wining streak against the Hornets. Up until that point, the Hornets hadn’t beaten the Celtics since Isaiah Thomas Jr. joined the Celtics. Once again, this is an indication that Walker is just not up to the task when it comes to beating tough competition.
     
  14. Tonnny

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    Some of the samples are from Lakers, which the system is far from ideal for him. D Antoni is right about Lin's assessment, but Lin has improved a lot since and also more experienced.
     
  15. Tonnny

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    Lin also played in Byron Scott's system.
     
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    Ready to buy my forex trading system?

    Works well with commodities including oil.

    Happy to do a WTF special ...
     
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    Byron Scott and the Lakers represented the exact opposite for Lin. Lin plays at a fast pace, likes to run in transition, and plays pick-and-roll. Scott had him start with the old guys (Kobe, Boozer) who didn't run and played a ton of iso. In preseason last year, it was obvious to anyone who watched that the pairing of Lin and Ed Davis had a ton of chemistry and impact...yet Byron Scott never played them on the floor together until after the All-Star break (not surprisingly, Lin played his best ball with the Lakers in the month after the All-Star break). It was stunning how stupid (or intentional for the tank commander) those decisions were...in fact, when Scott first decided to make a change, instead of moving Lin to the bench to play with Ed Davis, he moved Lin *and* Boozer to the bench together and moved Davis to the starting lineup. It was unbelievable how stupid that was. Then, when Lin gets it going after the All-Star break by running PnR's with Ed Davis, Scott tells the media "we shouldn't be running PnR's until the 4th quarter".

    Anything that happened to Lin in terms of stats, roles, etc should be wiped from the stat books. Every player that played for the Lakers last year and has moved on to another team has had a much better season this year (except maybe Ronnie Price).
     
  18. FTW Rockets FTW

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    I'd rather have it from Jerry Lin himself.

    "Jeremy Lin says his demotion to the bench, ‘is not really a surprise."

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/linsanity-bench-act-houston-article-1.1501697

    Oh and he also got demoted for Ronnie freaking price

    "This is not the first time Lin was demoted as he was also benched by the Houston Rockets last season over Patrick Beverley, according to Los Angeles Times."
     
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    krxsnoopy is funny too. I laugh every time he posts something
     
  20. tinman

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    LOL, you are so LOF now that you can't even recognize your own kind!
     

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