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2012 Presidential Election: Romney vs. Obama

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. Harrisment

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    The bias is due to the fact that they utilize math as part of their analysis, and we all know that math has a liberal bias.
     
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    The headline articles right now on RCP

    Romney and "Trickle-Down Government" - Timothy Noah, New Republic
    Obama's Struggle to Bring Back Jobs - Michael Fletcher, Washington Post
    For Democrats, It's Not 2008 Any More - Josh Kraushaar, National Journal
    The Candidate Who Wins Ohio Will Win - David Morris, Kiplinger Letter
    Obama's Rust Belt Firewall Crumbling - Chris Stirewalt, FOX News
    Mitt Romney's Blunders and Binders - Charles Blow, New York Times
    Obama's Inner Circle Knows Defeat Lies Ahead - Hugh Hewitt, Townhall
    Could Reid and Romney Work Together? - Charles Mahtesian, Politico
    Would Romney Be Able to Break DC Gridlock? - Lindsey Boerma, CBS News
    A Theory of a Divided Nation - Jonathan Cohn, The New Republic
    The Un-President - Daniel Henninger, Wall Street Journal
     
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    Silver's methodology is kinda like Hollinger's playoff predictor. It won't be accurate until the day before the election. Remember, we had something like a 90% probability of making the playoffs last season. Pfft!

    There's nothing to Silver's predictive ability on the presidential election. Romney is already winning and his methodology hasn't even digested it yet.
     
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    indeed, his methodology is not optimal.
     
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    if Romney's lead continues to grow, expect to see stories about Mormonism and/or leaked OBL pics
     
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    Watching the liberal responses in this thread is great comedy relief.:grin:
     
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    The leftist media in NY has already started. It's so ridiculous.

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    I know your post is a joke, but both of those publications are right of center.
     
  12. Major

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    And again, I ask for any evidence of this mischief. Or, I'll even make it easier - can you point to things in his stated methodology that open the door to said mischief?

    No, he doesn't use any internal polling data:


    Polls are also excluded from the Senate model if they are deemed to meet FiveThirtyEight’s definition of being “partisan.” FiveThirtyEight’s definition of a partisan poll is quite narrow, and is limited to polls conducted on behalf of political candidates, campaign committees, political parties, registered PACs, or registered 527 groups. We do not exclude polls simply because the pollster happens to be a Democrat or a Republican, because the pollster has conducted polling for Democratic or Republican candidate in the past, or because the media organization it is polling for is deemed to be liberal or conservative.



    That's sort of true. A poll predicts what the race looks like today. 538's goal is to predict what the race will look like on election day, based on the polling data we have, and what history tells us. His methodology gets more accurate as election day nears, for the simple reason that we have more data and less time for things to change. He also has the Now-Cast, which predicts what would happen if the election is today.

    How is this worse than looking at polls to predict the election, which only tell us the state of the race today, and do nothing to project what the race will look like on election day?

    Or how is it worse than RCP, which just averages a bunch of polls, not taking into account how recent or old the data is, the sample size for each, historical biases in the polls, etc?

    Evidence? Or this is more of that "facts that disagree with me are wrong" nonsense?
     
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    You know Obama used "optimal" in repeating Stewart's use of the word.

    I knew you Repug automatons would take the word out of context the second I saw that.
     
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    better double your post count to 36 thousand in the next few weeks if you wish to influence the election to that degree!!
     
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    Need more tweets from random people. That'll show us.
     
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    paraphrasing Al Smith IV, it's not optimal that Romney has produced more sons than Obama has jobs.
     
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