1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

13-14 vs. 14-15 Rockets team

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket2008, Apr 17, 2015.

  1. davidghall

    davidghall Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2007
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    23
    I was kind of shocked he made them equal, but for the opposite reason. I would take Prigioni over Lin all day. Prigioni won't make the occasional big play that Lin does, but he's not going to kill you with costly turnovers and mental mistakes either.
     
    1 person likes this.
  2. ThatBoyNick

    ThatBoyNick Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    28,453
    Likes Received:
    43,659
    Beverley, Terry
    Harden, Brewer
    Ariza, Papa
    Motie, Jones, Smith
    Howard, Dorsey

    Vs

    Beverley, Lin, Brooks
    Harden, Garcia
    Parsons, Casspi
    Jones, Motiejunas
    Howard, Asik

    So those are the rosters (for the most part) of course there was a lot of cuts and trades and injuries both years which caused the lineups to completely change.

    Honestly going into this season I thought we got worse, and if you where to tell me in advance that Howard and Jones would of been out for most of the season I probably would of bet on us missing the playoffs. But by miracle, Terry was productive, Dorsey was solid, we where gifted Josh Smith, the Ariza/Parsons switch turned out to be a positive, Motie stepped up nicely, and most importantly James the beard Harden came through big time with a MVP caliber season.
     
  3. TheRealAllpro

    TheRealAllpro Morey only fan

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2012
    Messages:
    5,842
    Likes Received:
    4,999
    2015 Clint Capela = 2014 Troy Dainels
     
  4. gumbleton3

    gumbleton3 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    2,136
    Likes Received:
    652
    I also didn't expect our franchise player to lay an egg in the playoffs but even that happened.

    Why do we keep insisting that Lin was the main reason we failed?
     
  5. Rockets025

    Rockets025 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2014
    Messages:
    1,468
    Likes Received:
    105
    -no Lin
    -no asik
    - actually have a bench
    - won't just have a 7 man rotation lol
     
  6. getbloodyred

    getbloodyred Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    1,423
    Likes Received:
    281
    Absolutely. If Harden was playing at this level last year we would have been lethal.

    You put Lin on this team right now and I honestly believe he would've made this team better. However, we had to explore the possibility of getting Bosh and I don't fault Morey for the deal.

    As far comparing the teams, this team is superior in a lot of ways. Last year's team was built on the foundation of youth and energy. This team is about maturity and competence. Give me the latter over the former every time. Harden's ascension to superstar, MVP-caliber player and Howard's new approach to the game will really pay off in the playoffs. Addition of the headband crew was immense and Jones' development have been key to our success.

    Now the test comes to how can McHale face Carlisle and then Pop afterwards. Will he be able to hold his own and not succumb to their strategy? Tune in tomorrow night..
     
  7. KlutchQT

    KlutchQT Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2013
    Messages:
    9,156
    Likes Received:
    4,288
    I think this is a real possibility, tbh.

    Add me as another who prefers Prigioni to Lin for what it is we're trying to do. Lin more talented? Sure. But Prigioni never looks panicked or rattled, which I think will be key in the postseason. A big difference between this team and last year's (and the '12-'13 team too) is that they don't collapse or implode when things aren't going their way. They keep their heads down and stick to the plan, and I think Pablo is great for that. Here's hoping that doesn't change under the glare of the bright lights.
     
  8. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2007
    Messages:
    45,153
    Likes Received:
    21,570
    People can feel better about this year's team than last because people can now see the loss of last year's team to Portland and can see that team's flaws, but are still seeing this year's team through rose-colored lenses (yay, 2nd seed! ). Let's wait until the playoffs end before making thie final judgment.

    To me, this team is pretty good but flawed just like that the 2014 team, it just has different strengths and different flaws. The current team has much better defense and a much better Harden but it lacks perimeter dribble creators and we have no idea which version of Dwight Howard is gonna show up.

    The current team probably ranked somewhere between the 6th and 10th best in the NBA just like last season's team was. Unfortunately, in the Western Conference, this means you may still lose in the 1st round (even against a not so elite Dallas team).

    Hell, the Spurs and Clippers are arguable two of the top 4 teams in the entire NBA and one of them is guaranteed to lose in the 1st round.

    I do worry about Prigioni. His recluctance to shoot and inability (as a Rocket at least) to make shots will get exploited in a best of 7 series if the opposing coach is smart-- the same way the Rockets will no doubt try to exploit Rondo's inability to shoot and the same way that Popovich exploited Tony Allen's inability to shoot. More important, none of the Rockets perimeter rotation guys other than Harden is able to really create off the dribble even in a secondary capacity.

    I imagine Carlisle and other opposing coaches will load up on Harden and try to make the likes of Terry, Prigioni, Ariza and Brewer beat them off the dribble. Not the Mavs have the defensive horses to pull it off, but some better team may be able to do it next round.
     
  9. rocketsballin

    rocketsballin Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2012
    Messages:
    8,041
    Likes Received:
    1,483
    the difference is this year's team is eating in rome and last years team was eating roman noodles
     
  10. bro2044

    bro2044 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2008
    Messages:
    8,119
    Likes Received:
    4,268
    The thing with Lin... he can play well (but rarely great), however when he makes mistakes they can be HUGE horrific mistakes (and he did...), so his contributions (1...maybe 2 games out of 6, and really they were only moments and not all game) seemed rather secondary.

    I don't know, I'd rather someone not make mistakes and lead to someone else making a good play, than someone who makes mistakes and sometimes makes a good play.
     
  11. FTW Rockets FTW

    FTW Rockets FTW Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2011
    Messages:
    27,724
    Likes Received:
    21,397
    Lin is a mental midget with a low IQ

    No way does he make this team better in any form. Come playoff time he turns into a big coward. Lin is addition by subtraction

    Glad we can go into this playoffs without carrying all his baggage

    He just isn't that good not a difference maker

    I'd take Jet and Prigs over Lin any day and more so come playoff time
     
  12. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    21,908
    Likes Received:
    18,667
    The two biggest difference for me are: Harden becoming a true superstar and Ariza. Ariza will be huge in the playoff with his versatile defense. Everything else just fall in place, including Howard willingly settling into the robin role.
     
  13. rocketsmetalspd

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Messages:
    9,282
    Likes Received:
    749
    It all came down to Harden becoming leader of the team, experienced players added to the the roster, and a deeper bench that contributes on a nightly basis. Also, finally McHale's stubborn ways of not playing rookies and now allowing them to play will benefit the team in the playoffs.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now