100 Black Pastors and Religious Leader to Endorse Donald Trump

MojoMan · Dec 1, 2015

So Donald Trump's meeting with 100 black pastors was not cancelled and in fact took place yesterday, apparently lasting for 2 1/2 hours. As far as endorsements, there was at least one, Pastor Darrell Scott, with both he and Trump insisting that there were a number of others as well. Pastor Scott went on to say that the remaining undecided pastors were praying about it.

Trump insists 'most' black pastors endorsing him

Donald Trump is insisting that “most” of the 100 black pastors he met with on Monday are endorsing him for president. “I thought it was an amazing meeting. I met some fantastic people,” Trump said following the private meeting at Trump Tower.

The GOP presidential front-runner had canceled a planned press conference on Sunday where he was to have highlighted the endorsements of 100 black religious leaders. He did so after several of the pastors denied they were endorsing Trump for president.

Darrell Scott, a pastor at the New Spirit Revival Center in Cleveland Heights, Ohio, stood by Trump’s side on Monday, saying that the meeting was “productive” and “constructive” and that the group of religious leaders are a “united front.” “We voiced concerns sensitive to the African-American community,” Scott said. “We’re all satisfied with the answers.”

Scott said there were a number of pastors who endorsed Trump, but didn’t have an official number. He said the religious leaders who remain undecided are “praying about it.” “Nobody at this meeting came out with negative reaction in any kind of way,” Scott said, adding that “Everybody in the room likes Donald Trump.”

Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth, a former contestant on Trump’s reality show "The Apprentice" who is now a minister, also stood next to Trump at the press conference. At the end of the press conference, Trump emphasized that he’s made no financial commitments to any of the churches.
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So, in my experience, endorsements are not secret affairs where you have to wonder about who is offering the endorsement. Then again, the racist intimidation tactics that were apparently used against these pastors by others in the black community in the run-up to this event raise concerns that may explain why any additional pastors who are supporting Trump would want to handle that in their own, lower-profile manner.

Nevertheless, Trump bungled this quite badly, as some of the pastors were apparently offended about the apparently premature insistence that they were endorsing him when they had not yet formally agreed to do so. If this were any other candidate except Hillary Clinton, whose supporters are clearly just as mindlessly and obliviously supportive of her as Donald Trump's supporters are of him, this would have been been a big blow that would probably have resulted in some sort of measurable loss of support.

However, in the final analysis, Trump has clearly developed an open collaboration and a partnership of sorts with these pastors in the field of political ideas and solutions, on which they all appear to share at least some common ground. This will be an especially big help to him if he somehow makes it to the general election as the Republican nominee, which I do not expect will happen.

In the present, this is also a clear example of Republican politicians reaching out to black voters in an effort to win their votes. So from now on, whenever an example of that is called for, this meeting conducted by Donald Trump is an example that can be offered.

Northside Storm · Dec 1, 2015

MojoMan said: ↑

In the present, this is also a clear example of Republican politicians reaching out to black voters in an effort to win their votes. So from now on, whenever an example of that is called for, this meeting conducted by Donald Trump is an example that can be offered.
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The meeting he "bungled" quite badly?

Instead of endorsements, many black pastors issued Donald Trump demands for an apology for his treatment of racial minorities at a closed-door meeting at Trump Tower in New York on Monday.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/donald-trump-black-pastors-meeting-216277

great outreach, A+, would suggest he do again

MojoMan · Dec 1, 2015

Here is a second pastor who attended this meeting yesterday Pastor Mark Burns, who is publicly endorsing Trump:

Black Pastor Backs Trump: "I'm No Uncle Tom," He's "A Strong Leader Who Will Bring Strength Back To America"

On Monday afternoon, Pastor Mark Burns, co-founder of the NOW television network, one of the many black pastors who met with Donald Trump Monday afternoon, announced his support for the Republican presidential hopeful and shared the large amount of praise Trump received from his religious colleagues.

"This meeting was extremely successful," the pastor said on MSNBC. "There was extremely strong support. He received many, many endorsements from the pastors that were there. It was a jam-packed room, standing support for Mr. Trump. Very good dialogue that we had back and forth and Donald Trump made it very clear that he's willing to do whatever it takes to win the black vote."

"There were signed endorsement cards that were handed out," Burns explained. "And there were many of them. I didn't get an accurate count because people were handing them over."

Asked by MSNBC's Kate Snow to respond to another pastor at the meeting who said he was not pleased with Trump, Burns had no idea who the person was.

"[MSNBC anchor] Thomas Roberts had a pastor on with him maybe two hours ago, who said he's absolutely not endorsing Donald Trump and was attending that meeting with you, and said, I feel, this was his words. He said, 'I don't think he speaks to the African American community. I think he's said things that are disparaging about Latinos and minorities.' He was pointing to a number of things where he sees conflict with Donald Trump," Snow said.

Burns called the claim a "fabrication" and made it clear that his endorsement came with no strings attached and he is not receiving anything from Trump:

I don't know who you're speaking about, but trust me, when I tell you, I'm not an Uncle Tom, no coon, nobody's been paid. I have not been offered a position. This is me looking at the politics, and looking at an individual, a strong leader that i believe that's going to bridge and bring a strength back to America.

And in that room, there were pastors from all across the country, that were showing their support, many of them signed actual documents, endorsement cards, showing their support... this preposterous tone of offensive things that he said about Latinos in the meeting, it's a fabrication.
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And once again, we see the clear evidence of the racial harassment and intimidation of these men by other members of the black community. Racism is alive and well in the black community, as has been demonstrated here in connection with this event, yet again.

sirbaihu · Dec 1, 2015

MojoMan said: ↑

Here is a second pastor who attended this meeting yesterday Pastor Mark Burns, who is publicly endorsing Trump:

And once again, we see the clear evidence of the racial harassment and intimidation of these men by other members of the black community. Racism is alive and well in the black community, as has been demonstrated here in connection with this event, yet again.
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2% success rate! (And that's among the ones willing even to meet him.)

Blacks calling blacks "Uncle Tom" is not racism. It's an accusation that a black person is acting like a slave to white people. That does not reflect on the black race or the white race.

SamFisher · Dec 1, 2015

MojoMan said: ↑

Here is a second pastor who attended this meeting yesterday Pastor Mark Burns, who is publicly endorsing Trump:

And once again, we see the clear evidence of the racial harassment and intimidation of these men by other members of the black community. Racism is alive and well in the black community, as has been demonstrated here in connection with this event, yet again.
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"And that's TWO out of A HUNDRED..Looks like you're still 98 SHORT...Just a LITTLE SHORT....heh heh heh"

CometsWin · Dec 1, 2015

SamFisher said: ↑

"And that's TWO out of A HUNDRED..Looks like you're still 98 SHORT...Just a LITTLE SHORT....heh heh heh"

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That's about Romney level success there. Nice job Trump.

JuanValdez · Dec 1, 2015

MojoMan said: ↑

So, in my experience, endorsements are not secret affairs where you have to wonder about who is offering the endorsement. Then again, the racist intimidation tactics that were apparently used against these pastors by others in the black community in the run-up to this event raise concerns that may explain why any additional pastors who are supporting Trump would want to handle that in their own, lower-profile manner.

Nevertheless, Trump bungled this quite badly, as some of the pastors were apparently offended about the apparently premature insistence that they were endorsing him when they had not yet formally agreed to do so. If this were any other candidate except Hillary Clinton, whose supporters are clearly just as mindlessly and obliviously supportive of her as Donald Trump's supporters are of him, this would have been been a big blow that would probably have resulted in some sort of measurable loss of support.

However, in the final analysis, Trump has clearly developed an open collaboration and a partnership of sorts with these pastors in the field of political ideas and solutions, on which they all appear to share at least some common ground. This will be an especially big help to him if he somehow makes it to the general election as the Republican nominee, which I do not expect will happen.

In the present, this is also a clear example of Republican politicians reaching out to black voters in an effort to win their votes. So from now on, whenever an example of that is called for, this meeting conducted by Donald Trump is an example that can be offered.
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On the one hand, there is pressure to not be an Uncle Tom. On the other, pastors are leaders in their communities, especially black pastors. What they say even on matters far from religion carry weight -- which is why Trump wants their endorsement and why the IRS doesn't want them telling their congregants how to vote. At the end of the day, if they are really leaders they can weather a little name-calling if they really thought endorsing Trump was the right thing.

As for damage, I never thought he had any shot at all, so my estimation hasn't gotten any worse. But one of his bigger weaknesses was his reputation as a racist. If this thing was successful (which is hard to imagine) and he had 100 prominent black pastors publicly endorse him, I could see how that could really bolster him. That he failed gives everyone confirmation of the reputation, deserved or not.

But, even in calling it a failure, I think you give him too much credit. He does not have any kind of collaboration. This was essentially a photo-op. I don't think Trump or Republicans will be able to leverage any credit for trying to talk to black people one time.

KingCheetah · Dec 1, 2015

MojoMan said: ↑

So, in my experience...
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Your first mistake was depending on your experience.

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