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Carl Herrera is online now Old 11-19-2012, 09:53 AM   #1
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Complains about a lack of touches, still working on chemistry with Dragic and Scola being first option in the post. Refused extension and wants to be traded.


I think the extension part might just be a business decision as there is a limit on how much it can be IIRC and he can get more as a FA.


Would Morey be interested? Asik is a far better defender but Gortat's game has more polish.

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I'd rather have Asik starting at this point. If Gortat complains about touches then he won't like being a sixth man here. If he had quickness to defend the 4 then maybe an Asik/Gortat front court could be great but I don't think so.

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Would Morey be interested? Asik is a far better defender but Gortat's game has more polish.
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Lakers will send an attractive package to PHX for him including Jodie Meeks and rights to Luke Walton.

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Would Morey be interested?
Probably not, but I'm sure the Rockets would love to facilitate a deal.

Lots of teams could use a true center like Gortat. Not sure if the Suns would really entertain trading him though.
 
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Lakers will send an attractive package to PHX for him including Jodie Meeks and rights to Luke Walton.
i don't think so. why waste healthy players in a trade. don't they have someone on IR with chronic injury instead?

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Lakers will send an attractive package to PHX for him including Jodie Meeks and rights to Luke Walton.
Close but Meeks is off limit.

However I am sure the Lakers will send the rights to Orland Woolridge for Gortat.
 
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The problem with giving Gortat more touches is he can't be relied on. He's borderline Dalmbert-esque in that department.

Scola seems to be an one year stop gap and I think he'll be traded next year when he's eligible and Gortat was trade bait anyway. The Suns are rebuilding.
 
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Lin and Asik for Dragic and Gortat. We could throw in Patterson as a bonus.

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Lin and Asik for Dragic and Gordat. We could throw in Patterson as a bonus.
The Lin hatred is really getting out of control. He is defended well, passed very well, rebounded above average and is getting a lot of steals. He doesn't even really make very much money. His shooting will come around and then you are looking at an above average starting point guard.

Lin isn't the reason the Rockets suck... they suck because they want to suck.
 
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The Lin hatred is really getting out of control. He is defended well, passed very well, rebounded above average and is getting a lot of steals. He doesn't even really make very much money. His shooting will come around and then you are looking at an above average starting point guard.

Lin isn't the reason the Rockets suck... they suck because they want to suck.
I don't hate Lin, I like Lin. It's just that I'm really high on Dragic, and I've always liked Gortat. Everything doesn't always have to be about Lin.
 
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I don't hate Lin, I like Lin. It's just that I'm really high on Dragic, and I've always liked Gortat. Everything doesn't always have to be about Lin.
Fair enough, not really picking on you.... just seems that half the threads are about Lin, whom was never going to be our best player and really is not deserving of the extreme love and hatred the guy gets on these boards.

I like Dragic more than Lin, but that is not the player Le$ wanted, and honestly, he will not put us over the top...
 
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I like Dragic more than Lin, but that is not the player Le$ wanted, and honestly, he will not put us over the top...
Dalembert was a player Les wanted and he definately did not put the Rockets over the top.
 
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Lin and Asik for Dragic and Gortat. We could throw in Patterson as a bonus.
Gortat doesnt like playing with Dragic.
 
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Dalembert was a player Les wanted and he definately did not put the Rockets over the top.
Dalembert was key to the Rockets pulling off the Harden trade.

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Gortat doesnt like playing with Dragic.
I think he has beef with Scola. Scola's taken over his role as the main guy on offense in the frontcourt and they're constantly having "animated" discussions during timeouts.
 
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Gortat is annoying

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I didn't notice him saying anything about wanting a trade.

He says a lot of dumb things though. He should keep it inside the organization.
It reminds me of Jasikevicius in Indiana. He'd get frustrated and go vent to the Lithuanian press -- maybe he was hoping English speakers wouldn't hear about it, i don't know.

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I think the extension part might just be a business decision as there is a limit on how much it can be IIRC and he can get more as a FA.
Gortat has two years left on his contract at about $7.2 and $7.7M remaining. The CBA limits him to an absolute maximum extension of 2-years, $17.22M on top of the 2 season he has left. As a productive big-man, he'd get a lot more on the open market, and since he'll be 30 when his contract ends, it will most likely be the last time he has a chance to get a huge deal in his career.

Since the Suns are under the salary cap this year by about $7M, they could actually renegotiate his salary upwards first, then offer him an extension off of that new number; in this manner, they could technically offer him anything up to the 0-6 year maximum contract over the next 4 years. Going this route would cost the Suns cap room in 2014, when they're poised to have even more space than the Rockets.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q58

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Would Morey be interested? Asik is a far better defender but Gortat's game has more polish.
What does Gortat's place of origin have to do with his talent? Do the people of Poland automatically have better hands and are less foul-prone?
 
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I think he has beef with Scola. Scola's taken over his role as the main guy on offense in the frontcourt and they're constantly having "animated" discussions during timeouts.
I agree 100%. Gortat and Scola are both low post players and Scola is getting most of the shots. We all know that when Scola gets the ball he's going to be looking to shoot, not pass to the Center. That's why Gortat would be a good fit with the Rockets, We really have no low post players. Gortat is not a great low post player, but he would be an upgrade over anything we currently have. I'm a fan of what Asik is doing, but gortat would be an upgrade on the offensive end.
 

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