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Shane's role will be signficantly diminished in the new season?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hotblooded, Oct 12, 2007.

  1. hotblooded

    hotblooded Member

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    Here is my concern

    Bonzi is only effective as a 2 since he can overpower his opposite number

    which means that when Bonzi is in, Tmac has to move to the 3 to cater for that, this will decrease Shane's minutes at the 3

    Essentialy I think Shane might only be getting around 20-25 minutes in the new season to cater for the added fire power that we have


    the only scenario I can think of where he maintains his minutes is where he mans the 4 while scola or chuck mans the five - but he has had problems defending against the bigger 4s


    would this make him less effective than last year?
     
  2. binvegas

    binvegas Contributing Member

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    I can't lie I'am not a big Shane backer, however last night I was thinking how Scola is going to be in top ten in steals and taking charges and has a very high basketball IQ. Battier is also great at taking charges and playing defense with a high IQ. We could have one of the biggest flopping starting lineup in the league, as well as a nasty defense. Scoring will pick up from last year just by Scola starting and a motion offense.
     
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    Diminished? yes. "Significantly" diminished? No. Shane's minutes will go down and that's a good thing. 36/37 mins game is too much. Shane is rarely effective at PF and any increased time there will not make up for reduced minutes at SF/SG, IMO. 25-30 mins/game would be just about right.
     
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    Shane's role on the team will be less. That's right. But I think he can still be effective on defense and he can still get some open 3s. I still think we need him
     
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    I think battier's role will be even more specialized this season. We don't need his 3s or offense as much as last reason. How much we still need his intangables and defense on the court.

    That could translate to less PT with certain games. However, we can't afford to lose him as he will be very important to us in the playoffs.
     
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    less Shane is a good thing
     
  7. hotblooded

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    with francis and or mike james and or luther spending the time at the two

    TMac will also have to move to the three which again decreases Shane's minutes
     
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    This is so stupid! Why do so many posters continue to say this? All the other team has to do is put their 2 on Tracy and their 3 on Bonzi. They have no problem with this, you saw it last season with Utah. Teams know Tracy is going to play on the perimeter no matter who is guarding him, so why not just put their bigger guy on Bonzi? Honestly, there is no real difference between the 2 and 3 on offense. It all has to do with how the other team defends.
     
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    alexdapooh Contributing Member

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    Shane Battier will be our equivalent of Bruce Bowen... nothing more than a defensive specialist and a 3 point shooter (only from the corner).
     
  10. Blake

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    I have no problem whatsoever with Battier only playing 20-25 minutes a game.
     
  11. hotblooded

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    i am talking about on the offensive end
     
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    so is AR.
     
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    Shane lock for starting?

    To keep balance in scoring I presume?
     
  14. hotblooded

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    oops mis-read

    if they put the bigger guy on Bonzi then Tmac can take advantage of mismatch against the shorter SG

    Usually, if they are putting thier best defensive player on TMac, then Bonzi will get matched up with the weaker defender...making his presence more valuable
     
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    he definately won't be asked to score much but he won't be like bowen. he has more offensive skills, and while i agree that he'll spot up for a lot of threes, we'll probably see him making cuts to the basket for easy layups when people try to double our scorers.
     
  16. awo86

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    shane will average much closer to 30 min than 25 min. His intagibles are too useful to dispel him so much of his time. His role on offense will be greater than spot up 3's. He has a decent post up games against 'wing players' and is an effective cutter as well.
     
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    Thats why we should trade shane. He makes too much money to only provide "intangibles". especially when pepsi scola does everything shane does and then some...like score and pass.
     
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    The less pressure on Battier to score is better for the Rockets as a team. Last year it seemed like their was a huge burden on him to score since we lacked the 3rd consistent scorer. All he has to do now is be good at what he does which is play smart, hard-nosed D, draw charges and hit the occasional 3. He will still go off for his occasional 20 point games but the less he has to do that the more effective he will be.
     
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    You can never have enough players that provide "intangibles." Shane is a great fit for us and besides it's not like he's making a ton of money. Who do you suggest we trade him for?
     
  20. denniscd

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    shane is a superior player to wells, head, francis, and james. he is superior to rudy gay. he helps teams win. he shoots in the 40's from 3's. guards the best perimeter player. he will play 32 minutes a game at the least and is sure to start.

    alston and james at the point...share 48 minutes
    tmac...36 minutes
    battier...32 minutes
    hayes and scola share 48 with battier sliding to four at times
    yao and scola share 48 minutes with yao playing 34 and mutumbo playing against size

    this only leaves 28 minutes for wells head francis snyder james at 2 etc. it will be a huge minute crunch. it never shows up in pre season. wells played 7 minutes last night and could care less. if he played 7 minutes vs the lakers in the first game of the season he would go crazy.

    you who want 10 guys playing every night will be disappointed.
     

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