has the citizen's united ruling backfired on republcans

If corporations are people, they should be taxed as people.

No more deducting expenses, one minor standardized deduction of ~3-5k, (moreso if they are blind) and then just taxed on all gross revenues.

 

HEY! YOU! Stop thinking this through.

 

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Commodore, can you please explain your love of the Koch's. Oligarchy seems so old fashioned and frankly not what American was founded on.

 

there is no explanation except:
it's what his parents told him to believe, it's what all the redneck truck bumper stickers around him tell him to believe, it's what he hears at the fundamentalist church he goes to, it's what faux news tells him..

gosh darnit that's enough. damn nobama

 

They provide billions in value to their customers, employ tens of thousands of people, and donate hundreds of millions of dollars to medical research, hospitals, and the arts.

And they are willing to spend their wealth promoting the cause of individual liberty. They are pro-drug legalization, pro-gay marriage, anti-Patriot Act, anti-crony capitalism.

They are not oligarchs. They have no autonomy over me, nor would they wish to.

Here's a question: How is Harry Reid able to live year round at the Ritz Carlton on a senator's salary?

 

If "Oligarchy" is the people supporting one group of rich men over the other, then uh, yeah it kind of was. It always has been that way. Whether it should be that way is another matter entirely, of course, but let us not confuse the myth with the reality, even if the myth possesses great social value.

 

I guess Commodore cannot explain how the Kochs are not crony capitalists who restrict his freedom.

 

Crony capitalism is graft, rent seeking. Securing subsidies/loans/bailouts for yourself. Getting laws/regulations written that create burdens and barriers to entry on would be competitors.

 

Well getting special tax breaks for themselves is even by your definition crony capitalism. Also The energy companies get special subsidies and the Kochs ask for these.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism
From wikipedia:

Crony capitalism is a term describing an economy in which success in business depends on close relationships between business people and government officials. It may be exhibited by favoritism in the distribution of legal permits, government grants, special tax breaks, or other forms of state interventionism.[1][2] Crony capitalism is believed to arise when business cronyism and related self-serving behavior by businesses or businesspeople spills over into politics and government,[3] or when self-serving friendships and family ties between businessmen and the government influence the economy and society to the extent that it corrupts public-serving economic and political ideals.

The term "crony capitalism" made a significant impact in the public arena as an explanation of the Asian financial crisis.[4] It is also used world wide to describe virtually any governmental decisions favoring "cronies" of governmental officials. In many cases, the term is used interchangeably with corporate welfare; to the extent that there is a difference, the latter might be restricted only to direct government subsidies of major corporations, excluding tax loopholes and all manner of regulatory and trade decisions, which in practice could be much larger than any direct subsidies.

 

They would go bankrupt and their stock would be worthless, negative cash flow every year. Product quality and salaries would plummet while prices would skyrocket.