I don't think it's fair to be adamantly for or against trading down w/o knowing the package the Texans end up with.
I mean the Rams have gotten some pretty decent players using their extra picks. The reason they haven't been good is because of injuries/bradford being disappointing. Also it doesn't help that they're in far and away the best division in football...
What do you think is going to happen when Clowney gets to the NFL?? Also, if you noticed, out of the three( Clowney, Barr, Mack), Clowney was the only one to regress. Yet posters here want him picked first. I don't trust him.
I've watched 4 or 5 Clowney games at this point from last year, and Clowney wasn't doubled nearly as much as certain people would have you believe. And honestly in the run game, Clowney was impressive in pursuit when you don't run right at him. But if you put together a highlight tape only of plays run right at him, it wouldn't be too impressive.
Well if the Texans trade back Clowney and Mack will definitely be gone but Barr will still be on the board (assuming they trade with Atlanta). But I wouldn't take Barr over one of the Quarterbacks, Robinson, or Mathews. I don't think Barr will be better than Mercilus.
More chatter about the chatter. The Texans presumably would only trade down if their trade partner had the player they wanted, such as Manziel falling to Atlanta, then they would get Clowney and the Texans would get Manziel/Assets. Worst case scenario, Houston keeps Clowney. This means, of course, that even if the Texans draft Clowney, there will be no assurance they are keeping him until deep into the first round. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-draft-and-trade-scenario-for-texans-at-no-1/
I think thats smart, draft the BPA and then try and get a ransom for him.,, if we do it right this could be are come up!
It's always funny to me to read guys with a 9-5 on this BBS tell me how they've "watched tape" and give me their impressions. Not speaking directly to you Ottomaton, but 99% of the people on this board would have no idea what to look for if they actually studied game tape. Anyways, to your point, they've already researched it for you: (See: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46928/349/out-of-the-box for more metrics measured amongst the top four rushers.) Clowney was chipped or doubled on a play 25% of the time, which is significantly more than any other top edge rusher that was examined. You are correct that he wasn't "doubled or tripled every play," but he still received more attention than the other top edge rushers in the country. Make of that, you BBS football experts, what you will.
Well, in that scenario, if Atlanta took Manziel (or another QB) then you could be reasonably certain that they were drafting for another team. They wouldn't be drafting a QB for themselves.
For the purposes of us knowing it might. IIRC, they normally don't announce those trades immediately, but rather somewhat later. The teams may have an agreement, but once both players have been chosen, they still have to formally submit the trade to the league office. So it takes a little while. We probably would be officially informed of a trade until a pick or two later.
I agree with you about the amateur tape watchers... But even the "experts" can have different opinions on the same tape. And Clowney was doubled 25% more than anyone else...??? Then shouldn't he have 25% less sacks than guys like Dee Ford instead of just 3... Especially since he is such a physical freak and wasn't facing power house offenses.
Well, that's certainly true. But the worry about trading back before the other team makes the pick would be alleviated at that point. But man, what a wrinkle that would be. I hope it goes down that way, personally.
Don't remember this ever happening in the draft. Maybe the Eli deal, but SD was what, 2 spots away and picking another QB that SD considered inferior. In theory it sounds good, but I'm not sure NFL front offices work this way. You take the guy you want.
A) No, he was doubled/chipped on 25% of his total plays -- not 25% more than anyone else. B) The logic on the 25% less sacks line is baffling. C) RE: your power house offenses from the same link... As you can see, Clowney's competition >>> the other edge rushers examined. You should be looking at the offensive lines he faced, not the PPG the opposing offense scores. So not only did he face much tougher competition, he was game planned for much more than the other top rushers in this draft. Not an argument one way or the other for Clowney. Just facts for others to base an opinion off of.
