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Planned Parenthood Director caught on tape selling aborted baby parts

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. GladiatoRowdy

    GladiatoRowdy Contributing Member

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    You should learn the definitions of words before you use them...

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    in·fan·ti·cide
    inˈfan(t)əˌsīd/
    noun
    noun: infanticide; plural noun: infanticides
    1. the crime of killing a child within a year of birth.
    the practice in some societies of killing unwanted children soon after birth.
    2. a person who kills an infant, especially their own child.
     
  2. thumbs

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    Your dictionary is not technically correct or at least very dated. Infanticide is killing a child once it is established as a fetus.
    Often, when a person kills a pregnant woman, he is charged with a double murder. In other words, the child is considered a person even though not "birthed."
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    Except rights like citizenship or counting someone as a person for tax and other purposes aren't conferred until birth. Further abortion is legal and even though you might consider that murder it isn't in the eyes of the law.
     
  4. HardenWay

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    The charge for transportation, they are not profiting from selling fetus/baby parts.

    Someone has an abortion, instead of going into a bin it is used to help someone else.

    Plus the video is clearly edited to ****.

    She speaks so casually because she is under the impression she is speaking with professional, not the normal person. Someone made the doctor analogy, which fits perfectly.

    Last time I check, it was 3% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortions. They mostly provided free cancer screenings, contraception etc.

    Let's be real, the pro-life crew are not pro-life. The usually are conservatives and are pro-war, pro-death penalty etc. The truth is, more-so with the Religious right, they just thik if you have sex out of wedlock you should pay the consequences.

    Truth is, if you want to reduce abortions things like real sex ed and/or contraception being available reduce unwanted pregnancy. The abstinence only sex ed states have the highest unwanted pregnancy rates.
     
  5. Commodore

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    Lord, have mercy

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  6. bongman

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    If the stories were true, wish that would have happened before:

    Great flood, killing of all Egyptioan first borns, Sodom and Gomora and all the Holy wars that God not only advocated but gave specific instructions for genocide, rape and slavery.

    Just sayin.
     
  7. GladiatoRowdy

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    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infanticide

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/infanticide

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/infanticide

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/infanticide

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infanticide

    http://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/infanticide

    That's the first six dictionary entries that come up when one Googles "infanticide definition." None include fetuses in the definition.

    Maybe I just didn't find the "Dictionary for Wingers" entry.
     
  8. Northside Storm

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    "Former organ harvester"

    ->

    lol, I'm going to start calling doctors "organ machines" and broadcasting shock videos of surgeries. LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

    off-hand, don't get a biotech job in China or in transgenics if you get your socks rocked by a legal procedure that has saved millions of lives.
     
  9. thumbs

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    We will have to agree to disagree. None of these definitions explain why the law, in cass where a pregnant woman is murdered, prosecutes the offense as a "double homicide." To me, a baby becomes an infant at the moment of conception.
     
  10. GladiatoRowdy

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    You're welcome to disagree with the dictionary if you like, but that strikes me as disagreeing with reality. I shouldn't be surprised.

    Yet again a conservative uses inaccurate terminology and instead of simply admitting fault, they double down on stupidity.
     
  11. sugrlndkid

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    Embryo (0-8 weeks since fertilization)
    Fetus (9 weeks since fertilization - birth)
    infant medically is defined as btwn 1 month and 1 year of age.
    Newborn is clinically used to describe a child btwn birth and 1 month.
    Just FYI.
     
  12. Commodore

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In today's TX Senate Committee, it was reported that the Houston <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PlannedParenthood?src=hash">#PlannedParenthood</a> facility alone makes $120,000/month harvesting tissue.</p>&mdash; Phillip Bethancourt (@pbethancourt) <a href="https://twitter.com/pbethancourt/status/626462372056567808">July 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  13. Commodore

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    oh Planned Parenthood, this will only make things worse for you

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Los Angeles judge issues order preventing publication of anti-abortion video. Troubling, at best. <a href="http://t.co/hZJ8XwaAel">http://t.co/hZJ8XwaAel</a></p>&mdash; Adam Steinbaugh (@adamsteinbaugh) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamsteinbaugh/status/626540905189609472">July 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    when you're losing the argument, employ prior restraint lawfare to silence the opposition
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    This is sick.
     
  15. Commodore

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    she appears to be describing infanticide

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  16. Northside Storm

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    maybe another round of investigation will do the trick.

    http://rhrealitycheck.org/article/2...e-myth-of-infants-born-alive-after-abortions/

    Potentially? Investigate again and see if PP undergoes systematic infanticide charges. I wouldn't bate my breath. There are clearly defined laws and ethics at work here: playing fast and loose with them seems to be something this group is getting very good at.

    At the very least, I applaud your newfound finding that infants are not fetuses.
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    Donny, there is no doubt Planned Parenthood is selling baby body parts. The question is whether they are selling them for a profit. The undercover video is evident prima facie that they are. From what I understand PP has moved to prevent the next series of videos from being released because they are particularly damning.

    BTW, this has nothing to do with women's rights or freedom of choice. Women can still abort their children under limits of the law. However, the question is whether women will have to do it in a hospital where ethical and moral imperatives would apply.
     
  19. Commodore

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    Far more damaging than the legal question is the way these videos humanize the unborn.

    An abortionist sifting through body parts in a dish, calling them out by name, heart, lungs, kidney, saying "it's a boy".

    Those organs clearly don't belong to the mother, she has her own.
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    What baby parts are they selling? Seems to me what is being discussed is fetus tissue.

    Oh really? So your position is now that women can choose to have abortions, and your only worry is whether they have them in hospitals?
     

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