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The Big 12 is negotiating a new media rights deal with ABC/ESPN and Fox that would be worth at least $2.6 billion or $20 million annually per school, television industry sources told CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd and Brett McMurphy.

The Big 12’s current deal with ESPN/ABC doesn’t expire until 2016, but the conference and networks have been negotiating what is being termed an extension. The 13-year deal worth is expected to be worth at least $200 million annually through 2025. The deal is expected to "sync up" with a $1.2 billion, 13-year deal signed with Fox in April. That would mean the ABC/ESPN extension would be worth approximately $1.4 billion.

What is not immediately clear is if there is also an extension of the conference’s grant of media rights. The schools agreed in September to a six-year grant of rights. That means if any school left for another conference during that time period, the conference would still own the school’s TV rights.

Nevertheless, the negotiation signifies that the Big 12 is showing signs of long-term stability. In that April deal, Fox paid for the Big 12’s secondary broadcast rights in football and basketball. The new deal is for 18-20 top tier games per year according to industry sources. This new deal is based on a 10-team league and sources said it could be worth even more per school if the Big 12 expands to 11 or 12 teams. The Big 12 lost Texas A&M and Missouri to the SEC last year, but replaced them with West Virginia and TCU. For the moment, the Big 12 is on the same plane financially as the Big Ten, SEC and Pac-12. All 46 schools make close to or more than $20 million per year from their primary media rights agreements. ACC schools make less.

The Big 12’s proposed deal would compare favorably with the Pac-12, which signed a $250 million-a-year deal with ESPN and Fox. That breaks down to about $21 million a school. Pac-12 sources have claimed since last year that when its new network ramps up after launching in the fall, its schools will be making more than $30 million per year.

The SEC plans to reopen its contract to negotiate more rights fees with ESPN with the addition of Missouri and A&M. The same is occurring in the ACC with the addition of Syracuse and Pittsburgh. In May 2010, the ACC signed a deal worth $155 million annually, while the SEC’s media rights deal with ESPN/ABC and CBS is worth about $205 million a year.

The Big Ten is expected to hit it big when its primary rights deal with ESPN expires in 2016. The Big East is hoping to also get a huge media rights deal in the next year. The Big East’s current $36 million deal with ESPN/ABC and CBS expires after the 2012-13 basketball season and the 2013-14 football season. The league rejected a $1.4 billion deal last year from ESPN, sources told CBSSports.com.

The Big 12 has come close to breaking up twice in the last 21 months. Both times Oklahoma and Texas flirted with joining the Pac-12. In June 2010, Fox and ESPN guaranteed their payouts would stay the same even as the league shrunk to 10 teams. In September, the Pac-12 presidents basically rejected Texas and Oklahoma after seeing the Big 12’s internal squabbles.

The Sports Business Journal quoted an ESPN spokesman as saying its current deal with the Big 12 has four more years to go and, “there's nothing beyond that,” at the moment.
So that's about 30 million a year for each school for just Tier 1 and Tier 2. Texas will be getting about 40-45 million in TV revenue a year including LHN. That's some serious dough.

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I'm not exactly his biggest fan, but Ken Starr would absolutely eat you for dinner.
With unlimited Federal subpoena power and a gaggle of whores, yeah.

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So that's about 30 million a year for each school for just Tier 1 and Tier 2. Texas will be getting about 40-45 million in TV revenue a year including LHN. That's some serious dough.
That's why you had all those kids' table programs like ISU and Baylor Girls Basketball kissing UT's nuts all of those years.

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With unlimited Federal subpoena power and a gaggle of whores, yeah.
have you been formulating this response since November when I posted that?
 
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That's why you had all those kids' table programs like ISU and Baylor Girls Basketball kissing UT's nuts all of those years.
Ziggy, you're entirely full of it to pretend your university didn't benefit from being associated with the University of Texas for 100 years. you're truly playing pee pee games, my friend.
 
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Damn it, Aggies! You're making this too easy!



When did North Carolina get introduced into the SEC??

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So that's about 30 million a year for each school for just Tier 1 and Tier 2. Texas will be getting about 40-45 million in TV revenue a year including LHN. That's some serious dough.
Wait - where did the $30MM/yr come from? The article suggests that the $20MM/yr is the combined result of the ABC/ESPN (Tier 1) and FOX (Tier 2) contracts. That means that the Big12 schools are getting in their newest deal about what Pac12 schools got last year (without the PacNetwork) and what Big10 schools are making now with a relatively outdated contract up for renewal soon.
 
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Wait - where did the $30MM/yr come from? The article suggests that the $20MM/yr is the combined result of the ABC/ESPN (Tier 1) and FOX (Tier 2) contracts. That means that the Big12 schools are getting in their newest deal about what Pac12 schools got last year (without the PacNetwork) and what Big10 schools are making now with a relatively outdated contract up for renewal soon.
I think this is where the confusion comes from:

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Primary is Tier 1 & 2, although that isn't as apparent in the way it is stated here. However, it is apparent if you read this and realize ESPN/ABC = Tier 1 and FOX=Tier 2:

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This has the Iraqi Information Minister written allover it. "Look the Big 12 is making the same per school as all the other Elite Conferences (at least for the next couple of months)" The reality is that this deal is better than what they had before, but it remains to be seen if the conference as a whole is better off financially with TCU and WVU than with Mizzou and A&M.
 
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It's going to be a rude wake up call.
A rude wake up call for what?? None of the Aggies on here (myself included) have ever said the Aggies were going to roll through the SEC. In fact, most of us have said quite the opposite.
 
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A rude wake up call for what?? None of the Aggies on here (myself included) have ever said the Aggies were going to roll through the SEC. In fact, most of us have said quite the opposite.
No kidding. What wake up call? You mean vindication of their original beliefs?

Every A&M fan, student, and grad I know feels like they're marching straight towards the gates of hell with their pants around their ankles ready to receive satan's giant, firey, spiked wang up their gigem-holes.

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A rude wake up call for what?? None of the Aggies on here (myself included) have ever said the Aggies were going to roll through the SEC. In fact, most of us have said quite the opposite.
True, but I'm still going to enjoy going to that game.

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This has the Iraqi Information Minister written allover it. "Look the Big 12 is making the same per school as all the other Elite Conferences (at least for the next couple of months)" The reality is that this deal is better than what they had before, but it remains to be seen if the conference as a whole is better off financially with TCU and WVU than with Mizzou and A&M.
Agreed. The reality is:

Big 12 schools in the next agreement will make $20MM/yr from Tier1/2 and can do what they want with Tier 3.

SEC schools currently make about $20MM/yr, will be renegotiating upwards this year, with hopes for an additional Tier 3 SEC Network (finances unknown).

Pac12 schools signed for $20MM/yr last year and are launching a Tier 3 Pac12 network (est. $10MM/yr)

Big10 schools currently make $20MM/yr with the Big10 Network being their Tier 2, but will get a huge bump with their upcoming Tier 1 renewal.

So the Big12 ceiling (thanks to no Big12 Network) is basically the floor for the other big conferences. Big East and ACC suck from a football perspective, so the Big12 will clearly do better than them, at least. But at the end of the day, each of the schools that left the Big12 should end up making more money than any remaining Big12 school, barring launches of LHN's for the other schools.
 
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Agreed. The reality is:

Big 12 schools in the next agreement will make $20MM/yr from Tier1/2 and can do what they want with Tier 3.

SEC schools currently make about $20MM/yr, will be renegotiating upwards this year, with hopes for an additional Tier 3 SEC Network (finances unknown).

Pac12 schools signed for $20MM/yr last year and are launching a Tier 3 Pac12 network (est. $10MM/yr)

Big10 schools currently make $20MM/yr with the Big10 Network being their Tier 2, but will get a huge bump with their upcoming Tier 1 renewal.

So the Big12 ceiling (thanks to no Big12 Network) is basically the floor for the other big conferences. Big East and ACC suck from a football perspective, so the Big12 will clearly do better than them, at least. But at the end of the day, each of the schools that left the Big12 should end up making more money than any remaining Big12 school, barring launches of LHN's for the other schools.
Yup. That pretty much explains why OU/OSU were desperate to go to the Pac 12, with or without UT. Texas can make up the difference with the LHN (Tier 3), but for anyone that doesn't have that, it's better to latch on elsewhere if you have that option.

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Yup. That pretty much explains why OU/OSU were desperate to go to the Pac 12, with or without UT. Texas can make up the difference with the LHN (Tier 3), but for anyone that doesn't have that, it's better to latch on elsewhere if you have that option.
The amusing thing will be, if the Pac12 and SEC Networks get off the ground and generate what is predicted ($10MM+/yr), seeing teams like Washington State, Vanderbilt, and Northwestern generating nearly as much per year as Texas and more than OU a few years from now.
 
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Damn it, Aggies! You're making this too easy!



When did North Carolina get introduced into the SEC??

http://throwtheflagblog.com/2012/04/...-at-geography/
They also forgot Missouri and Texas.
 
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I have no idea if this is true or not, but something I read on another message board. If nothing else, it's interesting to contemplate:

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