[Climate Change] Lake Erie up to 60% Covered in Ice

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

Great cherry picking with your sources. Bravo.

I like your style of winning the battle yet losing the war.

 

Actually your own source in the other thread states that climate change might be playing a role.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weath...69/?siteID=je6NUbpObpQ-rD5QMKUQjjmCP3j4NONhtw

[rquoter]Some outside climate scientists criticized the report, saying it didn't take into effect how record warmth worsened the drought.

"The authors of the new report would really have us believe that is merely a coincidence and has nothing to do with the impact of human-caused climate change?" Penn State meteorologist Michael Mann wrote Monday in The Huffington Post. "Frankly, I don't find that even remotely plausible."

Mann said the NOAA report focuses primarily on the lack of precipitation, not the unusually high temperatures measured in the oceans as well as across California.

"This study completely fails to consider what climate change is doing to water in California," wrote Kevin Trenberth, head of climate analysis at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. He said the work "completely misses" how hotter air increases drying by evaporating more of it from the ground.[/rquoter]

Anyway I did you some credit for that even if it seems like you didn't read through the whole article.

 

Especially since I have said that weather isn't the same thing as climate.
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=9545812&postcount=361

 

There's a million scientific peer-reviewed sources out there. You simply choose to ignore them and instead believe people who know nothing about what they are talking about.

Honestly, it's the closed-minded brainwashed kind of thinking you exhibit which is the epitome of what is wrong with this country. Your vote on issues is a vote of total ignorance and backwardness. You might as well follow-the sharia law because you are on that level with the kind of thinking you exhibit. You really do share the indoctrinated rigidity of people who believe in conspiracy theories and total nonsense that has been disproven for years and years.

Very sad indeed.

 

what i dont understand is the "indoctrinated rigidity" i suppose someone learning about different issues and people changing their views over time is a fluid situation over time.

it seems though that some people do not have the ability to look at overwhelming facts and even begin to change their minds.

 

I was talking about global warming, not tropical storms. There's not a consensus on the impact global warming will have on hurricanes.

There IS a near consensus on the fact global warming is happening. Denying global warming is what makes you crazy, nothing to do with hurricanes. In fact, it's really bizarre that you are even bringing up tropical cyclones.

 

you just post links to reports and random graphs and charts with no explanation or context.

Is this a joke?

 

Explain the chart you posted in your own words please.

 

This guy Bill Patzert is soembody you consider an authority on climate science?

Very good. How do you account for this?

 

You can talk about deserts and cold snaps and rain all you want, but the scientific data and consensus is that the current climate change we are experiencing is caused by mankind. The science is solid. It's not based on droughts or anything like that, it's based on SCIENCE. That is, the scientific method which is a rigorous process that takes years and years of consistent results that are reproducible and verified through predictions that come out of theory.

In this case, nearly all the scientific predictions from manmade global warming have come true. For instance, climate science predicted that if global warming was manmade and real, we would see the increase in temperatures happen at night, not during the day. This is now confirmed to be true.

Climate change doesn't predict the weather - droughts or hurricanes or anything like that. That's not what the key is here really - the key is that we are dumping a lot of C02 into the atmosphere and it is raising the temperature of the planet which will have broad ranging impact. What is that impact and the fact that it will have impact are entirely different discussions.

Ok?

 

It's not what Al Gore is preaching dude - you keep making this about politics. It's science and the scientific community that is raising the alarm. It's study after study. It's all out there - you quote some of it in fact in this very thread. So weird.