childress's deal is less than that and is the richest one yet in euroleague history. it's possible landry has an offer but definately not for that amount.
Remember guys - the Euro contracts aren't guaranteed. I didn't know it either until when it came up in an ESPN chat wrap recently. Comparing a Euro contract to an NBA contract is apples & oranges. In some way, a guaranteed contract makes more sense for Landry. Follow me here: Let's assume the Euro offer is 7mil a year over two years and isn't back loaded(which is a possibility), if Landry is a bust in Europe or if he gets hurt again, he could stand to only make one year's worth pay - in this case 7 million. Let's say he hurts his knee and is dropped in his first year. He could feasibly get paid for one year and would have to rehab his injury on his own and become a free agent all over again - but this time only the Rockets could bid on him in the NBA because they would still own his rights and that limits his options to sign with another Euro team for less money(with no gurantees), sign with the Rockets for less money, or sit out a year or two until he is able to re-enter the NBA after the Rocket's rights expire(I believe it's 2 or 3 years). For a guy like Landry, that puts him in his mid/late 20s before other NBA teams can hire him and he is still relatively unproven on the NBA level. ...let's say he signs a two year deal in Houston for roughly $3 mil a year and he gets hurt in Season One - the Rockets are still on the hook paying for him even through year two when he could recover and reestablish his value(in the NBA) before entering the market again. ...what I'm getting at is Landry paints himself into a corner if he goes to Europe - especially at this stage in his career where he isn't very proven, he has an injury history, and he isn't particularly young(as most Rookies go). It's a good bargaining chip for his agent to use, but it's too much of a risk for his agent to seriously consider it. BTW, I really am glad Morey isn't showing his hand and is trying to dig some value out of Landry. He is absolutely smart to low ball Landry until the market proves his true value - which so far is zero. It's okay - Landry will still make some bucks on the deal in the end and if he turns into a quality bench guy, he will probably score a bigger deal(full MLE at least) on his next contract.
Morey has handled the situation with Landry very nicely irrespective of whether Carl goes to Europe or not.The days of handing out Mo Taylor like contracts should be over. We will miss Landry but the Rockets can't afford to make mistakes of the past.
I'v seen some related news on chinese websire Link I can translate it for you but I never want Landry to leave indeed
a friend of mine told me this,and he believed it's true.then I saw this news on a website. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 据当地电视台的报道，西班牙豪门 Tau (Splitter、Scola 的母队)已经为火箭的受限制自由球员兰德里(Carl Landry)开出了2年价值1400万美元的合同。 在西班牙，兰德里在税后大约可以拿到400万美元的年薪，这比NBA中产合约(税前550万)要优厚很多。 兰德里的经纪人已经证实了这一消息。此前兰德里希望得到的是一份中产合约，但火箭一直要求他先接受膝盖伤势的检查。 It is reported by Local TV that ,Tau(Splitter and Scola's team)hed offered Carl Landry a contract about 14 million for 2 years.Carl will get 4 million without the tax.it's much more than what he can get from NBA.
I only want a translation if this website has a link to an authentic verifiable basketball related website. Otherwise it's useless.
1st off, tou can search the thread from then and probably find no comment on landry for the most part. Wha needs to be understood above anything else is the attempt to upgrade hayes spot. Normally with organizations, when players are brought in at your position, bodies get moved. Just this week, the nets aquired dooling and former 1st rd pick Williams is traded for basically nothing. Now that we got that out the way, lets move forward. The rush was in to replace Hayes, last years starter. How do I know? When they traded howard for james, they asked for Reed, a pf. When they knew SA wanted to get rid of salary and scola was coming over, they traded Butler and Scola, a pf, for V-Span. This was done after the draft when the Rox bought the 31st pick for 1m and drafted Landry. Now,if I just use common sense, it tells me the Rox thought highly of scola and landry. They thought Landry was a 1st rd talent and could be a steal, but because he had knee issues, he fell. Let me fast forward again. If a team, buys the 1st pick in the 2nd rd, whom they thought was a 1st rd talent, how could anyone say landry was paid on his percieved value? For 450k in 07, and 797k in 08, plus the option of qualifying in 09, we wouldn't have our mle tied up right now. The team thought so high of their new trio, they dumped Reed and his 2.5 m and Butler and his 2m or so. That's why I said if Landry didn't even make the squad, it was still cheaper than the rox having to dump Reed and Butler.To further that, if they still had Reed, that would be a expiring contract. Go look at Turiaf deal he signed with La coming out. Look at Boozer and Milsap. Those "steal" guys are all given 2 yr deal to at least protect the team in case they blowup. Redd, Mo Williams, all of those guys got 2 years. Not to keep piling on, but in the scope of nba salaries, 750k isn't a lot of money for the potential of a guy being good. Teams were hoping the Celts were going to cut Powe because of his knee injuries also, but Boston still gave him a 2 yr with a team option 3 rd yr. Its just standard operating procedure. So you can say what you want, but like I said earlier, even if landry sucked this past year, he would have still had a chance for redemption this upcoming season. If he just can't play, what's 750k when u dropped 5m in contracts?
Landry would be stupid to give up his potential Chinese sportshoes contract, which is expected to be multi-millions per year
If Landry bails, it's going to leave the Rockets in a predicament. They're already small, but they're only going to get smaller with only Chuck and Scola as pfs and Dorsey as a backup center.
The piece your missing is all the events after the draft trade (an in particular the 2 -1 with the Spurs that landed us our starter PF and Francis being available for less than 2 mil) made it no sure thing there was a roster spot for Landry at all. We had a crowded roster where tough cuts were going to be made and Landry didn't even perform as well as many others recently had in summer league (compared to JL3, Brooks, Novak, even Harris), which even that (good performance there) has not proved to be a sure thing of performing in the real NBA. Further, Josh McRoberts (who many thought we should get, drafted a few spots later) isn't guaranteed this year. Marcus Williams (the swingman), drafted 2 spots later than Landry, didn't even get a guaranteed deal last year and is fighting to make an NBA team at all. Same deal with Nick Fazekus (draft after MW). Overall it is the exception not the rule that second round picks (early or not) get guaranteed deals when the drafting team has a quality and deep roster. Big Baby and Pruitt got those deals with Boston because they needed bodies. The year before Powe got that deal because Boston sucked and had little to lose. But going to a good team with full rosters with quality and potential (Mavs, Spurs, what the Rockets by mid-summer last year) changes the formula for signing 2nd round picks. Probably any other year or even earlier in the summer we would have signed Landry differently--but things changed by the time they worked on the contract.
Is anyone getting tired of this whole Landry thing? I mean it seems like this is gonna drag for awhile maybe into training camp. I really don't care right now if he resigns, signs an offer shot, or signs with some Euro team. I would just like some resolution so that management can wither match an offer or find some other way to use the MLE. I have a suspicion this is gonna drag just like the Varejao thing for the Cavs last year.
DS, I agree with the circumstances, but I don't agree with your premise about Landry not getting a 2 year deal. It would have been a very small guarantee to give him the same type of deal Novak got the year before. The fact that the Rockets paid $1 million for the pick, and it was the first pick in the 2nd round meant that they really thought he could play, so they should have covered their bases with him. I think Morey muffed it.....love the guy, but this was a mistake. And it has hurt the team in this year's free agent market. I believe that Morey learned his lesson and is waiting for the Landry resolution before signing Dorsey.....because he does not want to make the same mistake again. Restricted Free Agents now have Europe as a nogotiating point.....I put our chances at resigning Landry this year at very good, providing he does not get a big offer from Europe. The Knee thing is all a smoke screen if you ask me, the Rockets let the guy play at the end of the year and in the playoffs, they know exactly what is up with the knee, they just don't want someone making a big offer to him..... We shall see how it develops, but this situation is all on Morey....he screwed Landry last year....and yes you are correct as to the reasons why, now Landry has a chance to screw back.... To me, it is all just business as usual. DD
I think I remember reading that Morey offered a two year contract to Landry but Landry stuck up his nose to it because he thought he should get a first round type contract. How are you going to blame Morey for that? That is not how second round picks are typically paid. Landry thought the offer was below him and decided on a guaranteed one year contract instead. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/5130595.html
Landry's agent won the battle of the presses last year, basically forcing Morey to come out this year about wanting Landry to have his knee scoped.
I pretty much nodded in agreement with everything you said. The whole Landry thing last year was overblown, whether or not Buddy or Landry himself felt that he (Landry) was being underpaid. I for one blame it all on the agent because Landry has done nothing but work his butt off despite not getting any playing time early on, and eventually turned himself into one of our best role players, if not the best. Throughout all of this Landry hasn't complained publicly or said anything out of the ordinary. I just think his agent is manipulating everything, and even though I agree the knee issue is being used as a smoke screen somewhat by Morey to deter other teams' interests in Landry, Buddy is clearly purposely blowing this up to try to get more money. At the end of the day, I feel that $3-4 million is enough for Landry, and I'm pretty sure he feels the same way, but his a**hole of an agent probably won't settle for that. So I have to say if this drags on any longer we definitely need to let him go and find other FAs or do some minor trades.
