Trump already saving American jobs - Carrier to keep jobs in the US

Learning a high level programming language is becoming a more mid level technical skill than a high level professional skill. Learning to code is going to be a basic skill required for most technical jobs in the future.

The baseline skill level for future manufacturing jobs is doing nothing but increasing with time. There is no level of deniability that will erase this notion from reality.

 

For the 1056th time, manufacturing jobs are disappearing all over the world as automation hits. Moving manufacturing jobs to the US is a temporary fix as those jobs are going to be replaced eventually. It's cheaper to have a robot do a task a human would do in the U.S. Eventually this will be true in mexico as well.

What moron trade protectionists don't realize is that our whole modern society is based on automation and cheap labor. Those HDTV's would be $20k if you had to manufacture them in the US with real humans. Things made in the USA cost more, and people don't want to buy them. You put tariffs on those goods and all you do it make people spend less - it's like a regressive tax. I thought you right-wingers were against taxes. Oh that's right, only against taxes on the rich.

Manufacturing jobs are gone. These token carrier jobs are just a PR stunt for the Donald. It makes good theatre but changes nothing.

 

Nobody is suggesting we become Luddites. This is exactly what you're saying; Manufacturing jobs are going to be replaced with automation, so those jobs are not in the least bit important and we should just let corporations send them off to china and make massive amounts of profit on saved labor.
The problem with your idiotic logic is that manufacturing jobs are not replaced over night. Bits and pieces will be replaced with automation, and it will happen over seas. These wonderful high paying tech automation jobs will stay overseas. The liberals wet dream is to have great tech jobs in the US and some how expect corporations to remain in the US so we can levy high taxes on them.

Why would a corporation stay in the US when all of their automated manufacturing, engineering, and design stay over seas and the corps would not worry about high tax rates?

Only a liberal would dismiss manual manufacturing as irrelevant.

 

You think America is the only country losing manufacturing? China has less employed in manufacturing than several years ago.

You sure about that comrade Space Ghost?

Then they'll be burger flippers if they can't acquire new skills.

Hyperbole is the calling card of the ignorant.... I know you are more intelligent....

The GOP is only offering tax cuts and deregulation. Maybe the rich will let it trickle down... hopefully unlike during the Bush Jr years that trickle down will go overseas where most of the growth will occur.

Perhaps coal country can enroll in Trump University?

You have to start somewhere Space Ghost, we've already tried slashing entitlements, budgets, and regulations under Bush Jr.... all we got was a liquidity crisis that wiped out all that wealth.

 

I stand corrected..... maybe you are an idiot.

Let me try being an idiot.... It's the conservative wet dream to write a blank check to producers who in turn invest overseas where the growth is.

 

All the GOP has done is focus on supply side issues lately when the issue is demand.

 

Look dimwit, it's your party that espoused free trade and markets to begin with, now you want corporations to be limited and regulated where they find labor? You sound like the liberal now. That is in fact what liberals want - Unions, anti-globalization, anti-trade. The fact that you think liberals think manufacturing is irrelevant just shows what a partisan hack you are. Whatever you hate is a liberal - that's your definition of a liberal you narrow-minded boob.

You also dont' know how things get built - probably because you never actually worked with a manufacturing company. Logistics and supply chains are very complex, and you can't just force one piece or all of it to be in one country. The U.S. will not be able to be competitive in foreign markets if you force companies to do everything in the u.s.

You like most Trump-ites, think it's the domestic market we have to protect but typical of right-wingers, they forget that exports are pretty darn important to. To have it your way, you'd force everything to be made here, which would cost more, and thus require a higher price. Not only would Americans suffer high inflation, but American companies wouldn't be able to export and sell their goods anywhere else.

Instead of trying to force companies to be less profitable in a global market, we need to understand where we have strength. America's economy is growing, and the jobs are there, they are just not in manufacturing.

You think people should pay higher prices just because people decided not to get educated so they could get a job. Well that's what happens when your kind poo-poo's science and technology. You get left behind. And that's what has happened.

There is no saving the rust belt. They have to transform to something else. You can't move them onto other jobs. But you can help their children.

 

Are you trying to tell us that Ford and Carrier are sending jobs to less educated countries like Mexico because they need to find "coders"?

Btw, which programming languages do you use?

 

I'm a MechE student. It's not my feild of study. Only some basic Java from AP computer science back in the day. I know MATLAB which is considered a higher level programing language well enough to do higher level math calculations like DiffyQs for spring damper systems.

 

Your initial premise is incorrect also. Net manfucaturing production has INCREASED and is still increasing in the US. Manufacturing jobs are going down though.

 

They are sending them to Mexico because they can do the work an American does for cheaper. Americans aren't as smart as you may think.... or think you are ironically....

 

You said learning a high level programming language (to program soldering machines) was about necessary skills in the workforce, not about "field of study". Are you ceding this point?

This is such a red herring. Nobody here is opposing automation and nobody is opposing manufacturing in the US - except perhaps yourself and a few others.

Do I have a convert?

 

No, what I'm saying is learning a higher level programing language is the simplest route to earning a decently paying tech job. And to clear up some key term defefintions to make sure we are in the same page a 'higher level programing language' is the easiest form of computer code to learn as lower level languages are things like Assembly or binary Code(binary 0s and 1s) where probably only computer engineers would know and apply to their field. Learning a basic higher level programming language like Java is relatively easy. It's the easier route that many people can obtain.

If you want to go through my route instead of just learning a higher level programming language then you are going to have to learn multi variable calculus, differential equations, statics, dynamics, thermo dynamics, fluid dynamics, material science, strength of materials etc which I'm gong to assume isn't for everyone. My avenue I presented is more obtainable for more people.

 

OOOPS....maybe not!

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/mor...-save-their-jobs-heres-what-they-have-to-say/

DD

 

The sound of those defending Trump for his magnificent job saving abilities. And with efficient use of our tax dollars no less.

 

Whoops!

Job Cuts Endure at Indiana Factories Despite Trump Pressure

 

I think these factory workers are also a part of the Deep State out to make Trump look bad by losing their jobs. To think, they're losing their livelihood for the sake of the political machine. Sickening! Do THEY even American?

 

If presidential orders are all it takes to save jobs, the other presidents would all have done it.

 

Thump thinks all other presidents are stupid enough to know some things to save the jobs.

 

There will be hell to pay when Two Scoops gets back ion town.