Ryan Anderson & Eric Gordon Standing Shooting From Mars

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teams aren't dumb, they are taking away the more open looks EG and Ryno had last season, pushing them more and more away from the 3 point line. EG does not have unlimited range imo, he's better if he's close to the 3 point line instead of heaving it from way back. His shot doesnt have enough arc to always be shooting from so far away.

This is allowing Gordon to drive and finish though so I don't see it as a bad thing. Maybe teams will eventually back up from him and he will have better looks again.

the thing about Gordon is that he doesn't have a middle game, he either shoots threes or drives straight to the hole.

 

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Defenses don’t follow him 3-5 feet behind the 3 pt line. Get real.

No one is hugged up on him that far out otherwise he wouldn’t be shooting those shots and missing all the time.

 

This p___y too scared to shoot during games.

 

That's crazy! Wish he would stop hesitating so much during games and just let it fly! We need a "Let it fly" chant over the speaker system at Toyota Center every time our guys get the ball. Maybe that will pump him up.

 

There's a fascinating (and I do mean fascinating) piece by Justin over at Nylon Calculus on the Rockets spacing. His math and geometry are off the charts, and his graphics make total sense. The short of it, is, when Anderson or Gordon take that extra 2 or 3 steps back, they exponentially increase the space in which defenders have to work alone. And if get out a ruler, it's way more than you think.

For example, if players are positioned in the corners and wings with PnR man around the free throw line, the defenders have to cover 26.1 feet between Rockets and 782 square feet in total. As a reference point, though Basketball 101 tells me to put a guy in the low post, our distance equation shrinks to 24.7 feet and 543 square feet the moment I do that.

By contrast, move one guy on the corner back to 28 feet and here's the equation change: 26.6 feet between players, 820 square feet. That's 38 feet gained between players simply having one player take 2 steps back.

To me, it's a genius move (and Justin thinks so too) since Gordon and Anderson are no more accurate standing right on the line than they are at 28 feet. Given game conditions, If they don't rush their shot and are relatively uncontested, the percentages are likely the same.

The only problem that I see with more space between players is that the passes are longer, and thus make us more susceptible to turnovers. We see this all the time, as the Rockets can be pretty lazy about how they move the ball. That's also led to this weird dribble into place and space offense. The logic here is if we don't pass, we won't have TOs. But when we face a team like Miami that rotates well and actually commits to defending the drive, we have a number of pretty uninspired possessions.

Presently, we're now getting great movement in and out of PnR combinations. If we can add a few other tweaks on the backside of plays, we'll really keep people guessing. I hope we can continue to add in more wrinkles off the ball (like cutters, back screens, quick post ups, etc.).

 

Thanks for sharing. Interesting bit of info there. The upside of the space between players making us more susceptible to turnovers is that we have two of the best passers in James and Chris.

 

it may not be fair and would destroy the league if they both start shooting well... kinda like when kd moved to gsw

 

Mr. Bungle. ALL DAY!

 

Yes sir, waaaaaay over heads....always good to run into old MP heads.....squeeze me macaroni

 

Caught them down in Tuscon last August, crazy core sh*t.

Nice to see Clutch Fans has a wide varied audience of members, I'm an old Public Enemy head all the way to sh*t like DC, Fantomas, Peeping Tom, Tomohawk, you name it

 

Tomahawk was an amazing live band. Any chance you saw Jesus Lizard at Day for Night? That was a good time.

 

Anderson shooting better the last two games but you can see teams are trying to cover him more(even on the longest of looks)

it is opening things up for Harden and Paul to drive

 

or perhaps he had a concussion

 

Gordon shot from a crazy distance last night, kept shooting from further away. He was hot, should’ve gotten more shots.

 

he didnt want to, because deb4rockets