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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

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B-Bob said: ↑

LOL @ Frum.

But seriously, 45 says random crap so often that anything under oath is an automatic perjury trap. We should all be able to admit that. He can't even keep straight where his father was born, just for instance. Never mind dates, names, and financial facts.
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...well, actually...

...the Donald did remember that meeting Junior had at the family tower that he once remembered didn't happen...

...or, that that meeting DID happen, just not about what we thought it was about...

...I must admit, I'm having trouble keeping up with all this myself, and being a brainwashed, stupid, lying n!gg3r is in my DNA...

...can't imagine what it's like for the bumbling, doddering leader of the free white supremacists....

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Hmm...

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Plea bargain?

Mystery recess triggers speculation in Manafort trial

Paul Manafort’s criminal trial on bank and tax fraud charges was held up for several hours Friday as the federal judge presiding over the case repeatedly met with federal prosecutors and Manafort’s defense attorneys. Judge T.S. Ellis III, who has otherwise placed a priority on the trial moving quickly, pushed the start of witness testimony in the trial until Friday afternoon, according to multiple media reports.
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Friday's unexplained delay has sparked speculation among observers that there could be discussions about a potential plea deal. But there have been no other signs that a plea agreement is in the works, and Manafort's lawyer said ahead of the trial that the former Trump campaign chairman would not agree to one.
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Interesting to also note that the prosecution team criticized the judge and essentially demanded an apology... and the judge essentially complied:

The judge said Thursday that he was “probably wrong” for criticizing prosecutors for having one of their witnesses, IRS revenue agent Michael Welch, in the courtroom ahead of his testimony. Ellis had previously given prosecutors permission to let Welch observe the trial before he was called to the stand.
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So the prosecution again challenged the judge on statements on Friday...

“The Court’s statement that the government ‘might want to spend time on a loan that was granted’ misrepresents the law regarding bank fraud conspiracy, improperly conveys the Court’s opinion of the facts, and is likely to confuse and mislead the jury,” prosecutors wrote.
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http://thehill.com/policy/national-...recess-triggers-speculation-in-manafort-trial

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lol...

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So he's made some sort of plea arrangement?

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So he's made some sort of plea arrangement?
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is there any indication of this? it's my understanding he chose not to testify and his defense team decided to forgo calling any witnesses.

i feel it's more like why waste the time and money when you're going to get a pardon.

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B-Bob said: ↑

So he's made some sort of plea arrangement?
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Not presenting a case doesn't necessarily suggest that. It is possible the defense team honestly believes that the prosecution didn't present a strong enough case. Or... the defense wants the jury to think that. Or... the defense knows that they don't have a chance, and a deal is being discussed.

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B-Bob said: ↑

So he's made some sort of plea arrangement?
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Possible but unlikely.

More than likely it means that Manafort did not want to be cross examined, nor did he want to have any possible witnesses open any doors on cross examination.

It isn't unheard of but a little surprising that Manafort couldn't find anyone to testify that would be limited on cross.

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Wut?

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btw, this evidence came up in the manafort trial. You know, the trial that had nothing to do with trump's campaign or administration...

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The defense has a Trump card in their pockets: Judge Ellis.

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The defense has a Trump card in their pockets: Judge Ellis.
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..I'm having trouble keeping up with all this myself, and being a brainwashed, stupid, lying n!gg3r is in my DNA....
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DNA? Only human beans have DNA, not some lying “dog”... I learned that from Alex Jones and Dr. Phil. Y’all ain’t all bad, that Denzel Washington stands for the national anthem.

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Who would have thunk...

Senate Intel Wants To Follow The Money In The Russia Probe. But Treasury Isn't Making That Easy.

In its investigation of Russia’s interference in the 2016 election, the Senate Intelligence Committee has spent more than a year trying to follow the money. But its efforts, unparalleled on Capitol Hill, have been hampered by a surprising force: the US Treasury Department, which has delayed turning over crucial financial records and refused to provide an expert to help make sense of the complex money trail. Even some of the department’s own personnel have questioned whether Treasury is intentionally hamstringing the investigation.
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Treasury has at times been reluctant to cooperate with the committee’s requests for sensitive financial documents that are significant to the Russia probe, at one point going at least four months without responding to one of the committee’s requests. Last year, Treasury rejected the committee’s request for help from one of its experts, even as Treasury officials have speculated — behind closed doors — that the Senate committee would not be able to follow the twisting financial trail laid out in the documents they had turned over, a path that often passes through offshore shell companies or untraceable cash transactions.
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But unlike Mueller’s team — which is stacked with attorneys from various fields and whose probe has already led to 35 indictments and guilty pleas — the Senate committee is short on financial experts, limiting its ability to follow the money. The seven core staff members are assisted by two staff directors and two lawyers, the source said, and their expertise lies mostly in national security rather than finance. Seemingly aware of its own limitations, the committee made its doomed request for Treasury to send an expert to help analyze the documents. That request was shot down last year, FinCEN sources told BuzzFeed News, because Treasury did not want to be seen as playing a part in the committee’s investigation.
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...wants-to-follow-the-money-in-the-russia-probe

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Hakeemtheking said: ↑

The defense has a Trump card in their pockets: Judge Ellis.
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