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Richard Jefferson vs. Other Players: What makes RJ so scary

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 23, 2009.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

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    In the 2008-2009 season, on a per 36 minutes basis.

    Richard Jefferson: 19.7 points, 4.6 rebounds, 2.4 assists, 2.0 tunovers, .554 TS%., .397 from 3 point line.


    Player X: 17.9 points, 3.3 rebounds, 2.1 assists. 1.7 turnovers, .541 TS%, .390 from the 3 point line.

    Player Y: 17.8 points, 3.1 rebounds, 2.9 assists, 2.3 turnovers, .543 TS%., .360 from 3 point line.

    What makes Richard Jefferson that much better Players X and Y above?


    I am just trying to figure out why some people are so worried about the trade that went down today.


    In case anyone is wondering:

    Player X is
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    Player Y is
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  2. Xcellerator

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    The fact that they just got RJ for basically nothing! Spurs will be able to resign Oberto & Bowen if they're bought out. So...uh, they add a 20ppg scorer in case Manu is injured again. Wtf!
     
  3. dkoune

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    areed. I wasn't worried at all when I heard this trade. Spurs give up their best defender and there starting center.
     
  4. TheRealist137

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    per 36 minutes mean nothing.
     
  5. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    You kidding me? RJ is actually conducive to winning basketball. And the Spurs don't make bad deals. That should be scary enough.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    Using per minutes stats to compare very good players to reserves is worthless.
     
  7. Dave_78

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    If anything, that comparison should shut up some Wafer-haters. I know it's a projection but it's still a positive.
     
  8. wallyj12

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    The Spurs got away with murder in this deal! Bowen WAS their best defender but he and Oberto's minutes decreased dramatically towards the end of the season. Jefferson can do it all for the Spurs, score, rebound, and play defense. The likelihood that the guys the Bucks got are probably going to be bought out and resigned by SA makes the deal even more ludacris
     
  9. Noob Cake

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    Spurs offers three 34+ year olds for a 20 ppg 29 year old SF.

    The worse part is that the Spurs can resign Bowen and Thomas when they are bought out immediately.
     
  10. JoeBarelyCares

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    Scola for the Greek TMac?
     
  11. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    The Spurs were forced into making that deal. They also got Dennis Lindsey under the table. Somehow they probably did win that trade.
     
  12. pmac

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    Great post...sig material

    ...and I'll take that a step further and say that per minute stats are not all that great when comparing any player who plays limited minutes (see: 6th men) to a very good player. The thing is, many guys are incapable of playing at such a high level for long periods of time whether it be for health reasons are just that it's unrealistic for them to continue playing at such a frenetic pace all game :)cough: Wafer :cough: ).
     
  13. Icehouse

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    What makes Jefferson so scary is you have a guy who could arguably be the 2nd option on a solid team, and he goes to a place where he will be allowed to be the 3rd or 4th option, and that makes a world of difference. See Lamar Odom's pre and post Gasol. You won't find too many teams with 3rd or 4th options better than Jefferson.

    What's scarier is the Spurs needed some youth and athleticism, and a player that could score....and they got all that in 1 dude for table scraps.
     
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  14. krockets

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    It will be more scary if Spurs use their MLE to sign Artest... (Not sure if they still have one)
     
  15. aussie rocket

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    How does one know unless one sees evidence?

    Wafer could well play 36 mins flat out and put up those projected numbers quite easily.

    17 pts a game isnt crazy - and its not like he's wasting his energy on the defensive end. ;)
     
  16. Dr of Dunk

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    Exactly. Not always worthless, but you can't take numbers that are barely reserve minutes and extrapolate them out to starter minutes. There's a reason why people are eternal bench warmers and why starters are starters - the bench warmers can't keep the numbers going or haven't proven they can for extended minutes.
     
  17. saleem

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    If they have one,I expect them to offer it to Chris Anderson over a 3 year contract.He could help Duncan out. A 3 year 5M deal for Ron could be matched easily enough. Don't see anyone offering him a 5 year deal. Ron would want more money and is not likely to get any meaningful minutes there.
     
  18. Dr of Dunk

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    Anyway, back to the topic... check out this stud's per 36-minute numbers :

    Player Z : 17.3 points, 7.2 rebounds, 4.3 blocks, 40% 3's.

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    ... and if you still don't know who that is, it's Brian Cook.
     
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  19. choujie

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    Not only RJ gets those against tighter defense, he plays pretty good D too.
     
  20. Strawman

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    What makes him better is that player X is still only 23 years old.

    Watch out for Wafer next season.
     

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