[RealGM Poster] Prime Tmac was just as good as Kobe

Tracy was the best basketball player to ever walk this planet.

That's over now. He realizes he wasn't selected.

 

in before Tinman gives his speech

 

Kobe has a significant edge in competitive fire and toughness, which has to count for something (though its tough to gauge how much it counts for).

 

Tracy plays better in elimination games. He wanted to be the best, but individual greatness doesn't count for anything in the NBA.

 

WAS.

This symbolizes McGrady





He was as good as Kobe. But maybe not was, just only for 2 years at MOST. McGrady had a high 2 year peak, very very good rest of years. He was Lebron for 2 years and Joe Johnson the rest.

Give Kobe McGrady's prime body and natural talents, and he'd be Jordan.

Those stats didnt take into account their efficiency, competitive motor and leadership.

 

06-07 Mac was already a far cry from early 05-06 T-Mac.

Mac had swagger when he got here. He out-muscled 7 footers in the post to get rebounds. His penetration from the 3 point line was better than LeBron's. I still can't forget what he said after we got cheated out of the play-offs by the Fagericks, "I'll be back here. I'm only 25."

 

Tracy was the best. I saw his games. He flew under the radar his entire career. If people just watched his games they would have seen his greatness.

Basketball has nothing to do with looks, or voice. Unfortunately, they chose not to sell his talent. They could make so much if they did.

Some people get the spot light. Others don't, no matter how good they are. And people die for speaking about this.

 

I remember when tracy was big all over the place. All star,scoring champ saesons,crazy dunks over other players,13 in 31,and now,he's just normal, like if it never happened. He used to be my favorite player, I feel sorry for him. I wish him the best.

 

If you are reading this, you are the resistance.

 

haha tis real bro. good luck in your life.

 

two kinds of people. just remember that.

 

Counts for a lot.

David Robinson and Hakeem Olajuwon had similar stats. David got his number. What separated them was the killer instinct and the desire to win at all cost.

Had McGrady and Kobe ever met head to head in playoffs, it would have been Hakeem vs David part II.

 

This. He was possibly the best player ever, and no matter how much of a let down he was for us as a team, I still wish that he could return to all star form and dazzle us with great basketball.

Shame on every single person who ever wishes him ill. I would have thought that your mothers taught you better.

 

Remember in 2005， when Kobe forced Shaq out and Phil retired (to write a scathing book about Kobe), and of course Colorado was fresh. Everybody hated Kobe so much and his team sucked.

Kobe went out and played incredibly that season. Can you imagine if Tmac was playing under similar circumstances? He'd be having a crying Steven A Smith interview by game 2 and coming down with some injury by game 10.

I think pre injured Tmac had more physical talent and even basketball IQ than Kobe. But their ability to handle adversity is worlds apart.

 

Do you not remember Kobe demanding and crying for a trade out of LA ?

And don't try and say T-Mac demanded a trade out of Houston.

 

He was my favorite player before he even came to town in 04, and his incredible talent just caught my eyes night in and night out, his miraculous comeback in the Rockets history still dazzled me every time I dug it up from the archive.

Glad someone pointed it out that Mac was as good as kobe and still Kobe is on his decline and LeBron rises up, hope he still has swagger and come back next year, wish him the best despite I don't quite feel that way he would be back like he stated after the tough playoff loss to the Mavs in 05.

 

Actually, those stats are misleading, he never did that well in most elimination games.

Against Detroit, he shot poorly in every game after they took a 3-1 lead - every game was an elimination game after they took that lead.

36% after taking 3-1 lead; 45% overall.

Against Dallas, the Rockets were destroyed in Game 7 and he played like a dog if you actually watched it, and he didn't play well in the pivotal Game 5 - credit for the great Game 6 though.

32% in Game 5; 50% in Game 6; 39% in Game 7; 46% overall.

Against Utah, I don't even want to look back at that first series, it was all about Carlos Boozer and Deron Williams so however well he played, Boozer and Williams played better; the last series is tough to judge because of Yao being out, don't remember much about it either.

2007: 35% in Game 6; 48% in Game 7; 39% overall. This was a bad statistical playoff year, especially for him.

2008: Overall, pretty good statistically, but again, not sure what this means with all the injuries and the fact that this series was one of those 6 game series where the winner took a 3-1 lead.



I think what happens is that he often plays outstanding opening games of the playoffs, and everyone tends to think that he played great series, when in reality, the first few games skew his overall playoff stats. Combine that with the fact that he's never won in the playoffs, and you have a player whose stats are very deceiving and whose impact wasn't as great as the stats suggest.

 

I would say he was better than Kobe, but Injuries has slowed him down, I wish the best of his career, that's all I can say.