You watch too much law and order. Circumstancial evidence isn't thrown out. You do know forensic evidence is circumstancial? So our criminal justice system just throws out forensics evidence as not "real evidence"? It's used quite heavily actually and my examples aren't "circumstanial evidence". Again,you refusing to explain your premises shows me that you either are posting insincerely as some sort of real life liberal who is trying to paint right wingers in a bad light or you are genuinely that much of a dunce.
Nah, you runnin and hiding because you can't address his points lol. Debate doesn't go like that. If it is a lie then prove it is a lie, you make it sound like it's so clear cut, then prove it. Prove him wrong. Then you'll make him look bad and yourself look stronger. Just waving it away and going "I am above this!" without addressing his point makes it look like he has a point and you're scared to address it.
As to the bolded part above, someone first has to show why it is a lie. One can’t just claim that something is a lie and ignore it.
Seriously, are you playing the Steven Colbert shtick when he did the "Colbert Report"? where he performed a caricature of a right wing zelot to show how ridiculous they are? If you are, I suggest more subtleness. You are too obvious right now.
No, no... the world doesn't have to cater to your expectations. If it's a lie (by omission or bold-faced), it's gonna get called out. Deal with it. If you want a structured debate, you won't find it here. Even then, you'll just get called a liar in more polite terms, sometimes less. That said, maybe you're just misinformed. Doesn't make what you say true or strong enough evidence to assert the President is racist.
You have a right to express what is a lie and what isn't without any evidence to back up your claim. You don't have a right to be respected and have people swayed by your "arguments". If you want to convince people, put forth reasons why you think the assertions are false or misrepresenting. Deal with it.
If you are above this then why post a thread at all? Posting a thread about a subject means you think there should be discussion and debate about said subject...see the title of the forum?
I'll give you another try. So how many white people he disagrees with has he told to go back to the country where they came from? How many non-black alleged rapists has he created front page ads advocating for their death even after DNA evidence exonerates them along with the actual rapist confessing? How many religions practiced by majority white individuals has he asked for the complete shut down of immigration from said religions? How many false stories about majority white religons has he created such as stories of thousands upon thousands of American Muslims celebrating 9/11 in the streets of Jersey City? How many ethnically white groups of people has he labeled as "rapists and murders" where only "some can be good people"? Now explain how they are "false" or "lies".
The Central Park FIve ad was very controversial when it happened, and he was on Fox all the time talking about Obama's birth certificate, at least three years before the election. You are willfully ignorant.
Wow. This is embarrassing for you. And obviously I won’t find a structured debate with you, since you seem completely oblivious as to what that even means. I’m sorry that I assumed you were actually interested in debating this topic. Clearly I was mistaken. Have fun making unsupported assumptions and dismissing actual evidence as untrue with no given reason.
Most of this is just line blurring and half truths bro. Case closed. I gave you your 10 minutes of debate, but I really have better stuff to do now. Good luck to ya.
So do you still think courts just drop all forensic evidence because it's "circumstancial"? It's obvious what you are doing. You do know that right? You can't even address one of the examples I gave you.
Go back and read the bold parts in the quotation. I wrote line by line responses. I'll post it again... my response is clearly the bold part. Maybe you just didn't see it.
Hey, here is a preview of what I'm talking about. Read my line by line responses to Fchow in the post above. That's why people don't take the Trump is racist crap seriously, because it is dismissible as hell because it's creating false narratives based on other false narratives. It isn't my job to prove your lies wrong when you wrap them in lies. It's like wrapping a turd in a turd. It's a literal **** sandwich where the meat is **** and the bread too.. Basically your the Arby's of arguments.
Don't play coy. He was obviously referring to the 4 congresswomen who are known as the "squad" who are all non-white US congresswomen who are all US citizens, 3 of whom were born and raised here and 1 of whom was a US citizen for 19 years and a resident of the US since she was a child. Telling non-white citizens to "go back to where you come from" is a common racist trope used against non-white citizens when a racist has a disagreement with them. It has been thrown at me before and I'm sure many non-white citizens who post here can confirm it has been thrown at them before. Telling a US citizen to go back to the country they came from implies that America isn't their home and that some far off foreign place where they weren't raised is their "real home". It's a very racially charge comment that makes the recipient feel as if he or she doesn't have a real home as the place they call home have a large contingent of people that believe that they never can be "real Americans" and and the place where racists perceive where their "real home" is they have hardly any experience with and cannot relate to at all. I've never heard the term "go back to where you come from" being charged towards a white American citizen because racists believe white is the default race in America. Racists like Trump supporters will only acknowledge a non-white citizen as "American" only if they agree in lock step to their political ideology. Elizabeth Warren doesn't call herself a socialist but I'm sure you consider herself one from the patterns of her rhetoric. How many rapes by white males have occurred in NYC since 1989? How many front page ads have Trump payed for advocating for their execution? Even AFTER someone confessed to the rape and DNA evidence showed that none of the convicted were at the scene through forensic evidence and only the DNA of the confessed rapist was present at the scene along with the victim's, he STILL stated that "they probably still did something wrong". So now you are trying to bait and switch what I claimed with a strawman. I never said that Trump banned Muslim immigration. I explicitly state that he asked to ban all Muslim immigration. Not only did he "ask", he proudly declared in third person his intent to ban all Muslim immigration. “Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.” - Donald J Trump. In my lifetime, I thought we as a nation would never have a mainstream candidate from one of the two major parties in a general presidential election ask for the ban of an entire religious group to our country. It's unprecedented and is prime example of pandering to bigots. His administration knew that a "complete shut down of Muslims" is not constitutionally viable in our court system thus they had to reframe any travel bans in a way that could pass the court system. So fascist like poliicies are prevented by our systems of checks and balances and I'm grateful for it. Muslims are treated like a race. To racists, Islam isn't a "white religion". It's not under the framework of "white identity". Also many racists have shot up Sikh temples because they confused brown people for Muslims. Racists have a perception of what the average Muslim is and it ain't white. Also, the vast majority of Muslims were born into their religion. Meaning when Trump is making broad claims about a large group of US citizens celebrating a vile terror attack for merely being Muslim. If it ain't racist, it's bigoted which goes hand in hand. Racists are often bigots and bigots are often racist. He labeled undocumented Mexicans as rapists and murderers while "some" maybe good people heavily implying that its the majority of undocumented Mexicans are rapists . "Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you.They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." - Donald - J Trump He wasn't referring to MS13. He was referring to a vague umbrella of "people Mexico sends". And empirically, given the data, statistically, no where close to a majority of Mexican immigrants ,undocumented or legal, are rapists or murderers.
You are a joke dude. Your rebuttals were half-assed and easily refutable to the point where I'm beginning to suspect you are a closet lefty trying to make conservatives look dumb.
Show me one racist that thinks they are actually racist. Hell the KKK dont even always think they are racist. Also... the most racist thing that Trump does is to use black people of notoriety or celebrity as props to elevate himself. He does this all the time and it’s blatantly obvious when he does it almost as if he’s rubbing it in our faces. Dude is a racist, and the Republican platform is largely about white identity politics. Get over it.
Easily provably false. An Oral History of Trump’s Bigotry I am glad that you now know the truth and are better for it.
