Its pretty much equivalent to the decision the Colts made 5 years ago... except they have an even more known commodity in Prescott, and Romo's injury is not thought of as career ending. Its basically less of a risk to go after Romo than it was to go after Manning... although when both are at their best, Manning is still better. I agree with going all out to ensure the QB position is solidified. I don't trust the draft process unless you have a slam dunk player (which happens once every 10-15 years?).. mainly because even if you think you have something, it takes a good 3-5 years before you can either be sure of it or you eventually decide to move on. Even drafting Derek Carr 3 years ago would only have now started to bear fruit... and that's presuming all the other factors that led to his ascension (tremendous O-line, talented young skill position players, no extraneous issues simply because his last name is "carr") stay constant in Houston.
Ass-backwards thinking. The QB play entirely impacts the offense. When the QB play is decent, the offense also looks decent. I doubt this coaching staff is instructing Brock to throw it into double-triple coverage, or miss guys on slants by 20 feet. I doubt they're telling him to stare down his first read, never look anywhere else, and then take an extra 2-3 seconds to wind up and throw it. Brock did better in Kubiak's system... because its a far easier system to learn. Its why rookie T.J. Yates was able to look better than Brock ever did this year. Hell, last year's T. J. Yates looked better than Brock ever did this year.
Don't overthink this Houston. This is the same exam you faced several years ago with Peyton Manning and his neck and you failed miserably. You're a QB away from true Super Bowl contention. There are no perfect options out there. You have to shoot for the stars and take the chance on the injury-risk QB that "could" be the final piece to the puzzle. Be sure and let Wilfork know your intentions if you do, for once in your existence, make the right decision. Hoping for a Dak Prescott type draft pick is like going all in on a single number in roulette.
As far as Jimmy G; why is NE trading him? If the Pats cared about him or thought he was any good, they would keep him around, no? You are trading those picks on the hope that a guy that started 3 games is a franchise QB that another team is willing to let go of. Not to mention you have to pay the guy; if he sucks, you are stuck with him. It could be another sunk cost at QB
Exactly. As old as Brady is, if they thought Jimmy G was worth a damn, they'd be prepping him to inherit the position. Instead, they are just looking to sucker some desperate team into overpaying for a JAG.
He's a depreciating asset that's about to cost real money for them. The Texans did a similar flip in Drew Henson with even less game experience. The Falcons traded Schaub under similar circumstances. How is trading for Jimmy G any more risky than trading multiple picks for an unproven QB in the draft? You also have to sign those guys to guaranteed money and give them multiple years to figure it out.
Jimmy G has one year left on his contract. Unless Brady is going to retire after next season, the Patriots will never get a chance to have Jimmy G inherit the position because he will assuredly leave in free agency. The Pats will probably have a long talk with Brady to see what he is thinking before they dump Jimmy G.
Because you know that one team that has seen him for years doesn't think that Jimmy G is worth keeping around. When is the last time the Pats gave up on a player that was worth a damn?
Chandler Jones, Richard Seymour, Lawyer Milloy, Vince WIlfork (played well for us for two seasons). Do you believe they would pay Jimmy G $25 million to be a backup? And do you believe Jimmy G would take less money to not start?
When you have Tom freakin Brady, and your season is a failure if you don't win a SB, you tend to evaluate assets a litttle differently. Part of what's allowed them to continue to be successful is that they don't hang on to depreciating assets. The fact that they've refused to talk trade with him in the past is also more of a sign they like him, but if Brady is intent on playing for another 3+ years, they won't waste cap space on a backup. The Pats have lost players in the past. Just because they look to trade him doesn't mean he's damaged goods.
Tom Brady is going to be 40 next season.....how many years do you think he has left? If the Pats thought that Jimmy G had the potential to be a franchise QB, they'd absolutely keep him no matter what Brady thought he could do.....you know, because that's what smart teams do. They don't hold on to someone until the wheels fall off, they choose to get rid of them a year early as opposed to holding on to them a year too long. If they thought they had a franchise caliber QB waiting for a chance then they'd push Brady out after next season and risk him having one or two decent seasons left in him. You know, the Patriots way.
It would probably cost more to get Jimmy G than just a first. Plus you have to spell out Jimmy's salary unlike a rookie's
Brady is continuing to look tremendous. Even with the slightest of regression, he's poised to still be a top 5 level QB after next year. Belichick probably goes whenever Brady is done. They've earned the right to decide when they want to go. Not many players get to that level. They will never choose Jimmy G over Brady unless the latter gets hurt or has major regression.
Not sure about that. He's still a pending free agent, who tend to fetch less. Guess it also depends on the quality of QB. Eagles traded a fair amount for Carson Wentz. Rams traded even more for Jared Goff. Neither was less risky than Jimmy G.
Randy Moss led the league in TD receptions the season before the Pats dumped him. Again, the Patriots way isn't to hold on to guys a year too long, it's to pawn them off on a sucker while risking that they have a year or so left in them so they can get something for them. If Belichick thought there was any chance Jimmy G could be their next franchise QB, He'd force Brady out for him sooner rather than later. Of course, he knows Jimmy G is nothing special, so he's looking for a sucker.....and he'll certainly find one, just like he did for Mallett.
Where are we getting this info from? Romo's 2017 cap hit is 19 million...and in a trade, the Texans would be responsible for 14 million of it. Also, we have a bunch of scrubs that will save a lot of money by cutting them...Clark, Bergstrom, Weeden, Newton...and at this point, Cushing and Joseph aren't integral parts of the defense.
Didn't you like Mallett? Moss was dumped for being a head case, which he went on to prove. Also, this isn't some late career acquisition we're talking about. It's Tom freakin Brady. It's Tom freakin Brady the face of the franchise. It's Tom freakin Brady arguably the greates NFL QB of all time. It's Tom freakin Brady who is still playing at an MVP type level. They're not going to dump him. And if he's still playing at an elite level, they'll explore their options on Jimmy, regardless of their hopes for him. Also, Belichick has hinted on more than one occasion that he won't be leading a "new" regime. That really only implies one thing/one player.
I just wished we wouldve traded for Kirk Cousins 3 years ago. All this talk would be moot and we wouldve actually had a fighting chance in the playoffs.
That's certainly the narrative. I said he was better than Hoyer and people lost their minds and just ran with it. You know how simpletons on here can be. Anyway, I still say that if Belichick thought that there was any chance Jimmy G was a franchise QB then there's no chance he'd be trading him.....but hey, maybe he's an idiot. We'll see how that turns out.
You must hate how your mind only works in absolutes. There are scores of examples of both teams benefitting from these sorts of trades. From Brees to Schaub to Romo (heh).
