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Hillary Clinton 2016: Stronger Together

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by JeffB, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. JeffB

    JeffB Contributing Member

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    Since we are lacking a real depot for Clinton campaign news I figure I'd start one. If she might be the next president, either by default (due to who she is running against) or due to her policies, we might has well have a dumping ground to attempt to discuss those policies. And the controversies.

    About Clinton
    Hillary Clinton has served as secretary of state, senator from New York, first lady of the United States, first lady of Arkansas, a practicing lawyer and law professor, activist, and volunteer—but the first thing her friends and family will tell you is that she’s never forgotten where she came from or who she’s been fighting for.

    Hillary grew up in a middle-class home in Park Ridge, a suburb of Chicago. Her dad, Hugh, was a World War II Navy veteran and a small-business owner who designed, printed, and sold drapes. Hillary helped with the family business whenever she could.

    Hugh was a rock-ribbed Republican, a pay-as-you-go kind of guy who worked hard and wasted nothing.

    Hillary’s mother, Dorothy, had a tough childhood. She was abandoned by her parents as a young child and shipped off to live with relatives who didn’t want to raise her.

    By age 14, Dorothy knew the only way she’d get by was to support herself, and she started working as a housekeeper and babysitter while she went to high school. Her mother’s experience inspired Hillary to fight for the needs of children everywhere.

    Hillary’s childhood was very different from her mother’s. Her parents built a stable middle-class life. Hillary attended public school and was a Brownie and a Girl Scout. She was raised a Methodist, and her mother taught Sunday school. On a trip to Chicago with her youth ministry, Hillary got to see Martin Luther King Jr. speak—this sparked her lifelong passion for social justice.

    After graduating high school, Hillary attended Wellesley College, where she became more involved with social justice activism. By the time she graduated, Hillary had become a prominent student leader—she was elected by her peers to be the first-ever student speaker at Wellesley’s commencement ceremony.

    After college, Hillary enrolled in Yale Law School, where she was one of just 27 women in her graduating class. While attending Yale, Hillary began dating one of her classmates, Bill Clinton.

    After law school, Hillary didn’t join a big law firm in Washington or New York. Instead, she went to work for the Children’s Defense Fund, going door-to-door in New Bedford, Massachusetts, gathering stories about the lack of schooling for children with disabilities. These testimonials contributed to the passage of historic legislation that required the state to provide quality education for students with disabilities.

    This commitment to public service and fighting for others—especially children and families—has stayed with her throughout her life.

    After serving as a lawyer for the congressional committee investigating President Nixon, she moved to Arkansas where she taught law and ran legal clinics representing disenfranchised people. She co-founded Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, one of the state’s first child advocacy groups.

    On October 11, 1975, she married Bill in a small ceremony in Fayetteville, Arkansas....



    About Kaine
    Tim is a lifelong fighter for progressive causes and one of the most qualified vice presidential candidates in our nation’s history. He’s also a man of relentless optimism who believes no problem is unsolvable if you’re willing to put in the work. That commitment to delivering results has stayed with him throughout his decades-long career as a public servant.

    Hillary chose a running mate who will be a real partner and help bring our country together in these divided times. Tim’s experience at the local, state, and national level makes him uniquely qualified to help build an economy that works for everyone—not just those at the top—and keep American families safe.

    Here are eight things you should know about Hillary’s new running mate—and our next vice president:

    1) Before he got into politics, Tim spent time working with missionaries in Honduras.
    Tim started his public-service career by taking a year off from Harvard Law School to run a technical school founded by Jesuit missionaries in Honduras. He’s described his time in Honduras as formative in his commitment to public service and his understanding of religion.

    2) He began his career fighting housing discrimination.
    After graduating from Harvard Law School, Tim spent 17 years as a lawyer representing people who had been denied housing due to their race or disability. He led the first meeting of the Virginia Coalition to End Homelessness and brought suit against a financial institution for shutting out homeowners of color, a practice known as “redlining.”

    3) Tim championed early childhood and higher education.
    As governor, Tim shepherded funding for new public schools, passing the largest bond package for higher education construction in Virginia history. And he forcefully advocated for expanded pre-Kindergarten access.

    4) As governor, Tim closed critical loopholes to help prevent gun violence in Virginia.
    In the aftermath of the Virginia Tech mass shootings in April 2007, Tim mourned with the victims’ families, demonstrating the depth of his leadership and compassion. He later signed an executive order that imposed restrictions on access to firearms for persons adjudicated mentally ill. Tim also vetoed a bill that would have allowed individuals to bring concealed weapons into restaurants that serve alcohol.

    5) Under Tim’s watch, Virginia was rated the best state for business and raising children.
    During his tenure as governor, Virginia was rated the best state for business, but Tim, a father of three kids, is most proud of his state leading the country as the best place to raise a child.

    6) Tim is a staunch defender of women’s reproductive rights and health care access.
    Tim fought efforts to restrict women’s access to the full range of birth control, and he spoke out against legislation that would let women’s employers dictate the terms of their reproductive health care coverage. As senator, he co-sponsored the Protecting Women’s Health from Corporate Interference Act to overturn the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby decision and restore contraceptive coverage under the Affordable Care Act. He also introduced legislation to provide women access to affordable, FDA-approved, over-the-counter birth control pills.

    7) Tim is a vocal advocate for LGBT rights and equality.
    Tim is a supporter of marriage equality and an original co-sponsor of the Equality Act, legislation that would provide anti-discrimination protections for LGBT Americans. The first executive order he issued as governor of Virginia prohibited hiring discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.

    8) Tim has worked to restore and protect voting rights for all Americans.
    Tim used his executive authority as governor to restore voting rights to thousands of formerly incarcerated individuals. As senator, he helped introduce the Voting Rights Advancement Act to fight voter suppression and repair the damage done by the Supreme Court’s Shelby County v. Holder decision, which gutted key provisions of the Voting Rights Act and disempowered millions of voters across the country.

    Tim has been building bridges instead of walls his entire life, and that’s exactly the choice we face in this election.


    Clinton campaign policies
    Follow the above link. Too much info for copy-pasta. I'll just include the short version of her statement on the economy below:

    An economy that works for everyone
    Despite the progress we’ve made in coming back from the Great Recession, we face a set of core challenges to building an economy that works for everyone—including a political system that is doing too little to help working Americans, an economic system that encourages too many corporations to favor short-term profits over long-term investments, and outdated workplace policies that aren’t meeting the needs of modern families.

    As president, Hillary has a five-point plan to meet these challenges:

    A 100-days jobs plan: Break through Washington gridlock to make the boldest investment in good-paying jobs since World War II. Hillary will fight to pass a plan in her first 100 days in office to invest in infrastructure, manufacturing, research and technology, clean energy, and small businesses. She will strengthen trade enforcement, and she’ll say no to trade deals like TPP that don’t meet a high enough bar of creating good-paying jobs. And she will make the U.S. the clean energy superpower of the world—with half a billion solar panels installed by the end of her first term and enough clean, renewable energy to power every home in America within 10 years of her taking office.

    Make debt free college available to all Americans. Hillary will make college debt-free, and she’ll provide relief for Americans with existing debt by allowing them to refinance their student loans.

    Rewrite the rules so that more companies share profits with employees—and fewer ship profits and jobs overseas. Hillary will reward companies that share profits and invest in their workers, and she will raise the minimum wage to a living wage. She will crack down on companies that shift profits overseas to avoid paying U.S. taxes, and she’ll make companies that export jobs give back the tax breaks they’ve received in America. She will defend existing Wall Street reform and push for new measures to strengthen it.

    Make certain that corporations, the wealthy, and Wall Street pay their fair share. Hillary will pay for her economic priorities and avoid adding to the national debt by ensuring the wealthiest Americans and the biggest corporations pay their fair share. For example, she’ll fight for the Buffett Rule, close the carried interest loophole, and impose a new surcharge on multi-millionaires and billionaires.
    Enact policies that meet the challenges families face in the 21st-century economy.

    Hillary will make it possible for parents to succeed at work and at home by updating outdated laws so they match how families work today. She will fight for equal pay and guarantee paid leave, two changes that are long overdue. And she will provide relief from the rising costs of necessities like child care and housing, while taking steps to provide Americans with greater retirement and health care security.



    Polling
    As of the crafting of this post, Clinton is estimated to have an 81.4% chance of wining the election by Nate Silver.
     
  2. Carl Herrera

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    Boring, ain't nobody wants to talk about Clinton.
     
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    Hillary has her issues. Everyone does.
    The biggest drawback for Hillary is . .. She is a politician.
    To me . .. that means she can be wishy washy, say was is expediant to her goals and possible can be bought.
    That is being a politician

    What I expect from her is STATUS QUO
    We might move ahead a foot but it will come with baggage and pork filled legislation

    The alternative is Trump - Not a Politican but not in the GOOD SENSE
    He doesn't want to be president .. . he wants to be DICTATOR
    He wants to do whatever he wants whenever he wants and if you don't like it SCREW YOU
    This is not a healthy mentality for someone who would command the most powerful arsenal on the planet.
    He inspires no confidence and honestly more fear than anything

    He would literally be THE WORSE president in the history of this country. Bar None!
    And to me .. . . that is the BEST CASE SENARIO
    Worst is he would be the LAST PRESIDENT of this country

    Rocket River
     
  5. okierock

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    Hillary and Trump are not the only options.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    None of the others have a realistic chance of getting elected.
     
  7. Nook

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    Yeah they are.
     
  8. okierock

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    Useful idiot.
     
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    We need change and citizens that are willing to vote for it.
     
  10. Space Ghost

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    And Trump does? :confused:
     
  11. Dairy Ashford

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    I didn't see anything in there about the Rose Law Firm or commodities trading.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    It's kind of funny and sad that people are considering having a thread for a candidate is that important. I remember in the Feel the Bern thread it brought up a few times that Clinton was in trouble since there hadn't been a dedicated thread on Clutchfans for her.

    Given that there are a lot of threads dedicated towards Trump and he continues to do worse in the polls maybe the opposite not having a dedicated thread is a good thing.

    On the substance of this thread though I agree that many people need to look beyond the caricature of Clinton that has been painted. If you look at her history she has been consistently dedicated to causes such as child welfare, improving pay for women and healthcare. She's certainly changed positions on quite a few things, most politicians who've been in office for decades do, but she's generally been on the progressive side of most issues.

    Clnton is obviously far from perfect and there is much to criticise her but she isn't the corrup venal caricature that people make her out to be.
     
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  13. Carl Herrera

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    Well, Jill Stein ain't the change I need.
     
  14. CometsWin

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    The most disappointing thing about Jill Stein and Gary Johnson too for that matter is how poorly thought out their positions seems to be. The other day I saw an interview with Jill Stein where she said we should be literally disarming the police. What? I believe Gary Johnson has actually said that US forces in South Korea would be removed if he were President because China should deal with North Korea. What? Those are some of the most naive things I've ever heard.
     
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    She's like that yucky middle school principal gunning for district superintendent that a lot of us grew up with.
     
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    One of the issues that hasn't gotten much play is the fact that on a daily basis the POTUS makes life and death decisions, kill or don't kill. I would guess that aspect is what has stolen the precious bodily fluids from Mr. Obama.

    I can't imagine a cartoon figure like Mr. Trump making those calls, but I can easily imagine a cold calculating Ms. Clinton running the political calculus.

    'Presidentin' is serious business' , I think the clowns don't even realize what the job is or would want it they did. It's 24/7/365 of stress, tedium, frustration, self -doubt and second guessing. Ms. Clinton knows the job and seems well steeled for it.

    I don't think either of theses older candidates could do 8 years of it.
     
  17. calurker

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    NK launches an ICBM. Does Ms. "I was coughing and not gasping" have the balls to press the big red button? Serious (albeit misogynistic) question.

    Problem with the clown is he'd press the big red button even before there's an ICBM. And he'd change the flight path to hit Mexico, or something.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    Hillary has always been pretty hawkish with her foreign policy stances. I have bigger questions that she'd be too hung-ho to do that more than worrying about her not doing it.
     
  19. bigtexxx

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    You live in a bizarro fantasy world!

    Clinton has been in the position before, and sent our troops to Iraq and left our ambassador to be slaughtered in Libya. She's been there before, and failed miserably. She's simply not fit to make decisions like these.
     
  20. dandorotik

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    So, it should read:

    Clinton has been in the position before.
     
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